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For fun, I compiled a Timeline of Archaeological, Genetic, and Geologic data. I think this is the audience that would appreciate it. (My observations in the comment section.)

2020.09.23 02:33 SkyAnimal For fun, I compiled a Timeline of Archaeological, Genetic, and Geologic data. I think this is the audience that would appreciate it. (My observations in the comment section.)

A timeline of Human Development, using archaeological, genetic, and geologic data:
Earth's orbit experiences a Orbital Eccentricity, 100,000 year cycle orbit and inclination variation, going from circular to elliptical, the hemispheres experience more or less sun or exposure to the sun for extended periods, causing ice ages. Scientists estimate we are near the minimum, a 6% change in solar energy. At peak, the earth experiences a change of 30%.
44 million y a - Hominid ancestors acquire Herpes virus.
10 million y a - Primate ancestors develop genes to digest alcohol.
6 million years ago - Primate ancestors split from Chimpanzee/Bonobo line (15 million DNA mutations have occurred since then; each person born today has 100 mutations distinct to them, most don’t survive.)
5.3 m y a - Mediterranean Sea experiences the Messinian Salinity Crisis, for 600,000 years the Straight of Gibraltar closed off, causing the Mediterranean to shrink down to two inland seas with Italy and Greece separating them. Ends in the Zanclean Flood, a river of Atlantic sea water flows thru Gibraltar and fills the Mediterranean in 2 years.
5 m y a - Arabian-African continent reconnects with Asia.
4 - 3 m y a - Hominid ancestors acquire pubic lice from Gorillas (genetic evidence).
3.6 - 2.58 m y a - Considered the Neogene Period.
3.3 m y a - Stone tools found in Kenya and Ethiopia.
3-1.4 m y a - Chimpanzee Herpes oral virus mutates into Hominid genital virus, cross species transmission (Homo Habilis or Paranthropus Boisei).
2.6 m y a - Mode One Stone Tools found in Ethiopia, would subsequently spread. Flourished to 1.7 million y a in southern and eastern Africa. Palaeolithic (Old Stone Age) Era (2.6 m y a till end of last Ice Age, 11,000 y a). Subdivided into the Early- or Lower Palaeolithic (c. 2,6 million years ago - c. 250,000 years ago); the Middle Palaeolithic (c. 250,000 years ago - c. 30,000 years ago); and the Late- or Upper Palaeolithic (c. 50,000/40,000 - c. 10,000 years ago
2.58 million - 11,700 years ago - Considered the start of the Quaternary Period, and covers the Pleistocene.
2 m years ago - Earliest Hominids start eating meat.
1.89 m y a - Earliest evidence of Homo Erectus (first to leave Africa and spread across Asia).
1.8 m years ago - Mode One Stone Tools found on Java.
1.7 m years ago - Mode Two Stone Tools (slicing, butchering, evidence of drilling tools) appear in Kenya and southern Africa.
1.6 m years ago - Mode One Stone Tools found in northern China.
1.6 - 1.5 m y a - Africa, Turkana Boy dies, likely from a tooth cavity infection. He was either 8 or 11-12 years old and 61 inches tall. Brain 880 ccm.
1.5 m y a - Kenya, possible start of Hominids using fire to cook food. (increase in caloric intake, which would lead to evolution; however, Paranthropus Boisei is the local species, brain 500-550 ccm, 54 inches tall)
1 million years ago - Likely split between ancestor of Homo Sapiens and proto-Neanderthal-Denisovan species. (Mitochondrial DNA evidence.) South Africa, evidence of fire use for cooking.
1 m - 700,000 y a - Java, Java Man dies, brain 900 ccm. 5' 8" tall.
820,000 - 580,000 y a - Durum Wheat develops out of natural hybridization with Einkorn Wheat (genetic analysis).
800,000? y a - Low world temperatures recorded. Height of Ice Age?
790,000 y a - Levant, oldest Fire hearths found. (Homo Heidelbergensis, 1,250 ccm brain, 69 in tall)
740,000? y a - Height of Ice Age?
640,000? y a - Height of Ice Age.
550,000? y a - Height of Ice Age?
540,000 - 430,000 y a - Art: Sea shell formed into decoration by Homo Erectus. (Could indicate when sea shells began to be used as whistles and horns.)
530,000? y a - Interglacial Peak (between Ice Ages, high CO2 content in the atmosphere, 524-474,000).
500,000 y a - South Africa, evidence of Spears. (Would become common 300,000 years ago.)
450,000 y a - Earliest evidence of Neanderthal.
450,000 y a - Global temperatures had dropped, stayed that way for thousands of years.
430,000 - 230,000 y a - Durum Wheat cross-breeds with wild Goat Grass (genetic analysis).
400,000 y a - Interglacial Peak (between Ice Ages, 424-374,000).
400,000 y a - Germany, oldest Spears found. France (Terra Amata), possible evidence of manmade shelter using prepared wood.
360,000? y a - Height of Ice Age.
310,000 y a - Interglacial Peak (between Ice Ages, 337-300,000).
300,000 y a - Kenya, oldest evidence of Ochre rocks being used for pigment.
300,000-200,000 y a - Origin of Male Y-Chromosome that all current males are descended from. (40% of males do not reproduce.)
270,000? y a - Height of Ice Age.
240,000 y a - Interglacial Peak (between Ice Ages, 242–230,000).
200,000 y a - France, evidence of Neanderthals fishing. "Mitochondrial Eve," source of all Human Haplo-groups that everyone is descended from, existed at this time. Scientists think that language with well formed, meaningful sentences was achieved (migration patterns, anatomy, tool making; some argue that truly modern language is 50,000 years old).
194,000-135,000 y a - Penultimate Glacial Period.
190,000 y a - Early evidence of Denisovans. (At least three interbreeding events would occur with Homo Sapiens. EPAS1 gene, hemoglobin concentration, Tibetan plateau.)
190,000-50,000 y a - Flores Island, evidence of tool use by the Human Hobbit.
170,000 - 80,000 y a - Body Lice evolve (genetic evidence, feed on human skin, live in clothing; evidence of clothing)
140,000 y a - Homo Sapiens found in Europe.
130,000 y a - Evidence of humans in North America. Crete, earliest human settlements found on the island. Art: Neanderthal necklace made of eagle talons. Croatia: Neanderthal teeth show possible dental work.
125,000 y a - Interglacial Peak (between Ice Ages, 130-115,000). Sea levels 4-6 meters (18 feet) higher then today.
110,000-15,000 y a - Last Glacial Period.
100,000-60,000 y a - Flores Island, bone fossil evidence of the Human Hobbit.
100,000 y a - Oldest example of proper human burial. South Africa, Blombos Cave, pigment (paint) creation kit found; possible oldest evidence of abstract art.
75,000 years ago - Likely rise of Hunter Genotype in Homo Sapiens.
75,000 y a - Art: Drilled snail shells found in South African cave.
73,000 y a - South Africa (Blombos Cave), evidence of Red Ochre art on pieces of stone, stone with deliberate lines cut into it possibly representing count marks.
72,000 y a - South Africa, Beads found in cave.
70,000 y a - Mitochondrial DNA suggests this is when the Haplo-group of early humans migrated out of Africa to populate the rest of the world. Earliest evidence of Glue (sticky tree gum, ochre rocks, fat cooked over fire).
70-60,000 y a - Earliest evidence of bone and stone arrowheads, found in South Africa. 64,000?
70,000 - 35,000 BCE - Neanderthal burials in Europe and Middle East.
67,000 BCE - France, burial shows skulls with trepanation (cutting holes to relieve brain pressure), earliest example of surgery.
65,000 y a - First humans settle Australia.
64,000 y a - Spain, oldest evidence found of cave art (Neanderthal hand).
61,000 y a - South Africa, possible evidence of a Sewing Needle.
60,000? y a - Height of Ice Age?
60,000 y a - Evidence of man/Neanderthal using herbal medicine.
55,000 - 40,000 y a - Italy, evidence of Neanderthal using Pine Tree Resin and Beeswax for hafting tools, in cave.
52,000 y a - Last evidence of Denisovans.
52-41,000 y a - France, Neanderthal site, bast (tree inner fiber) yarn found (evidence of basic math and organizational skills for patterns and sets, clothing, nets, tools)
50,000 - 10,000 y a - Mode Four Stone Tools (long blades).
50,000 y a - Austrailia, last evidence of megafauna. Siberia, needle made from bone found with Denisovan cave.
50,000 years ago - End point of development of Gatherer genotype (can survive famine), Teacher (can handle new and different environments, analytical).
45,000 y a - Evidence of Neanderthal and Homo Sapien interbreeding. (Fossil found, DNA tested.)
44,000 y a - Evidence of art found in Indonesia.
44,000-40,000 y a - Europe experiences cold and dry weather, displacing populations.
43-42,000 y a - Germany, oldest musical instruments (flutes) found.
42,000 y a - Australia, skeleton of man suggests Atlatl use, pre-dating earliest evidence; earliest example of cremation found. Spain, small amounts of Natural Gold found in a cave.
40,000 y a - Last evidence of Neanderthal. (Inheritance of "STAT2" gene, immune response. HYAL2 gene, helps skin recover from sunburns.) China, test on body found that ate a lot of fresh water fish.
40,000 - 26,000 y a - Studying toe bones, showed they became smaller and weaker, indicating shoes were worn. Prior to this, shoes were likely bags wrapped around feet to protect from cold.
38,000 BC - First appearance of Mode Five ground stone tools on Japan. (rock was quarried; thin slivers of flint stone, attached to hafts, man is learning the use of a "handle" for tools and "leverage", create adzes, celts, and axes; grinding helps to penetrate trees and was likely discovered when grinding plant matter; found buried with owners; were traded) Lasted till 14,000 BC. (Would not become popular elsewhere until 10,000 BC?) Germany: clay figurine featuring human with lion like appearance, thought to be earliest representation of a deity.
40,000 y a - (Mankind is at the “Forager” level.) Possible example of oldest petroglyphs. Beads found in Lebanon.
35,000 BCE - Europe, earliest examples of "Venus figurines" found buried in graves (some showing they were deliberately broken or stabbed repeatedly); would later spread to rest of Eurasia. Early examples of skulls and long bones showing red ochre, indicating possible relic worship.
35,000 y a - Germany, flute made from a vulture bone found.
31,000 - 27,000 y a - Evidence of Pit Fire (Earthernware) Pottery developing.
30,000-20,000 years ago - Explorer genotype (Ice Age refugees, idiosyncratic, asymmetrical, contrarian mentality)
30-15,000 y a - DNA evidence of Denisovan interbreeding with Homo Sapiens.
30,000 y a - Evidence of starch residue on rocks, indicating where plant matter was pounded and ground. (Would likely be the pre-cursor of developing bread from roots of cattails and ferns. Quern Grinding Stones would spread and gain popularity) Georgia, Flax used as a textile (harvested, dyed, and knotted) found in Dzudzuana Cave. Fertile Crescent, Einkorn wheat harvested in it's wild form. Evidence of man using the Atlatl. Poland: Boomerang carved from mammoth tusk found.
28,000 y a - Europe, oldest evidence of rope.
25,000 - 15,000 BCE - Blood Type A develops in the Fertile Crescent.
27,000 y a - Australia, oldest example of petroglyphs found. Czech Republic, earliest example of "Weaving" of material together to create baskets and basic cloth.
26,000-13,300 y a - Considered "Glacial Maximum", ice sheets extend to the 45th parallel north. (26,500 considered to be maximum glacial reach.)
23,000 - 12,000 y a - Perforated Batons found, made of antler, assumed to be a form of Atlatl that uses a leather strap or string to wrap around the spear and give it a slight spin, arrow or spear thrower (similar to Swiss Arrow). Right and left handed throwers find preference. Most carved with Horses, have one or two holes (one had 8 holes).
23,000 y a - Israel, Ohalo archaeological site, hunter-gatherer society that grew/harvested barley, millet, and various fruits.
21,000-17,000 y a - France, Atlatl's found in caves.
20,000 y a - Height of the Ice Age, sea levels 120 meters (360 feet) lower. Earliest example of a building/house found. Ukraine, Bullroarer (wood on rope that is swung around to create sound over long distance) found.
19,050? - 13,050 y a - Oldest Dryas Period, stadial, abrupt cooling period. Sea levels rose 10-15 m in 500 years.
17,000 BCE - Mesopotamia, Wild Emmer Wheat harvested.
18,000 - 17,500 y a - Siberia, earliest example of a domesticated dog found frozen. Germany, Bow and Arrows found. Early evidence of Darts used.
18,000 y a - Japan, oldest pottery discovered.
15,100 - 14,000 y a - Morocco, earliest example of a cemetery.
15,000 y a - Southern France, cave art depicting possible Musical Bow, Nose Flute; "The Sorcerer," a figure showing human and many animal qualities.
14,500 y a - Oldest example of bread making, Jordan desert.
14,160 - 13,820 y a - Archaeological find: infected tooth partially cleaned out with flint tools.
14,600 - 13,600 y a - "Melt Water Pulse," sea levels rose 16-24 m.
14,000? y a - Older Dryas Period, around 200 year cooling period.
13,500 - 8,200 y a - China, wild Rice domestication event occurs.
15-10,000 BCE - Himalayas, development of Blood Type B.
12,000 - 9000 BCE - Mesolithic Era (Middle Stone Age)
11,050 BCE - Syria, attempts at domesticating Rye.
13,000 y a - Greece, evidence of lentils found. Earliest evidence of Amber used in jewelry. Israel, archaeological evidence of beer like gruel for ceremonial purposes found at Haifa. Likely beginning of Slavery.
13,000 - 12,700 y a - Fertile Crescent, archaeological evidence of man corralling and using pigs.
12,900 - 11,700 y a - The Younger Dryas Period, when temperatures went cold instead of warming from the Last Glacial Maximum. Started when a massive fresh water lake in North America flooded into the Atlantic Ocean.
10,000 BCE - Jericho, considered mankind's first town, is established. Buildings of clay and straw, dead buried under homes. (Would reach 70 dwellings by 94,000 BCE.) Chickpeas domesticated. (Mode Five Ground stone tools become popularly used across the Neolithic?) Earliest evidence of the Bottle Gourd being domesticated and used (Africa and Asia variety). Azerbaijan (Caspian Sea), petroglyphs of reed boats. Starting point of Ocarina type flutes.
11,700 y a - Considered the beginning of the Holocene.
9600 BCE - Southern Levant, earliest use of wild Emmer Wheat.
11,500 - 11,000 y a - "Melt Water Pulse," sea levels rose 28 m.
11,400 y a - Cyrpress, archaeological evidence of pigs (indicating they had been domesticated and brought from the mainland).
9400 - 9200 BCE - Jordan Valley, Fig trees found, indicating earliest agriculture since these trees could not reproduce.
9130 - 7370 BCE - SE Turkey, Gobekli Tepe, oldest known worship location.
9000 BCE - Syria, oldest (Saddle) Quern found. Mesopotamia, Copper first used.
9000 - 3300 BCE - Neolithic Era, roughly. Time period of when man has begun herding, before using bronze.
11,000 - 9,000 y a - Mesopotamia, domestication of Sheep; Rammed Earth construction technique developed.
11,000-4,000 years ago - Warrior genotype (farmers, soldiers, inventors); Nomad genotype (life upon a horse, can handle different environments, good immune system)
11 or 10,000 y a - Last Ice Age ends.
8800 BCE - Emmer Wheat spreads beyond the Levant.
8700 BCE - Iraq, Copper pendant.
8500 BCE - Domestication of Barley. Domestication of peas occurs around this time. Turkey, Beer production found at Gobekli Tepe. Domestication of Cattle from the Aurochs (two separate populations, one in Mesopotamia, the other Pakistan). Oregon, oldest pair of shoes found made from bark twine. Oats possibly start to be harvested, crop mirrors wheat (is like a weed).
10,300 - 8,700 y a - China, Millet harvested.
10,200 - 9,500 y a - Emmer Wheat domesticated(?).
10,000 - 7,000 y a - Archaeological evidence of boats.
8000 BCE (10,000 years ago) - Palestine, archaeological evidence of pastoralism. Pre-Pottery Neolithic people in the Fertile Crescent form perfectly smooth stone vases. Iran, Goat domestication. Believed to be when primitive dairy-cheese making began. Flax cultivation. China, Quern Grinding Stones.
78-5,000 y a - SE Turkey, Einkorn Wheat grown and domesticated.
9,500 y a - Cyprus, earliest evidence of cat domestication. SE Anatolia, cold-working, annealing, smelting, lost wax casting of Copper.
7500 - 5700 BCE - Anatolia, Catal Hoyuk develops as a spiritual center, found many clay figurines and impressions (feminine, phallic, hunting).
7400 BCE - A monolith ends up submerged in the Straight of Sicily.
7000 BCE - Archaeological evidence for pastoralism in Africa. China: evidence of mead (honey, rice, water fermented) in pottery; evidence of musical instruments. India, first archaeological evidence of Dance, cave art; evidence of dentistry. Armenian Highlands, art depictions of Cymbals. Durum Wheat made thru artificial selection in Europe and Near East. Greece, earliest evidence of grain silos. Turkey, Catal Hoyuk, art depiction of a Slinger.
7000 - 6600 BCE - China, domestication of Soy beans.
7000 - 6000 BCE - Turkey, domestication of Bitter Vetch. (Too bitter for human consumption without being boiled several times, has been found to be great for cattle feed.)
6500-3800 BCE - Ubaid Period (Mesopotamian citystates rise, evidence of specialized workers, evidence of taxation)
6500 BCE - Turkey, evidence of lead smelting at Catal Hoyuk. (Wrapping the dead in textiles, too.) China, archaeological evidence of Silk. Kosovo, oldest Ocarina found in Europe.
8,200 - 7,600 y a - Sea levels rise rapidly. Linked to North American great fresh water lake (Agassiz, Ojibway) sudden draining into Atlantic Ocean. 8,400 y a?
6050 BCE - Moldova, evidence of man extracting salt from a natural spring.
8,000 y a - Western Europe, white skin first appears. Iran: earliest evidence of irrigation; man starts choosing sheep for their wooliness, not just meat and skin (2-3,000 years later, would start wearing wool). Georgia, earliest evidence of wine. Spain, cave painting shows people collecting honey from a wild hive, using a container to hold. China, Buckwheat cultivated (near Tibetan plateau). Earliest evidence of the Ard Plow used. Mediterranean, Broad (Fava) Beans, Broccoli. Portugal: Almendres Cromlech, begins, aligned to equinox and solstice, occupied for 2,000 years, would become largest complex in Iberian peninsula, equal to other large complexes in Europe. Anatolia: Obsidian polished into mirrors. Spelt Wheat appears. First Stone hafted Axes.
6000 - 3500 BC - Mesopotamia (Sumer), Poppy domesticated.
7500 y a - Earth experiences a cold climate period? Lasts for 500 or more years.
7500 y a - Earliest example of chickpeas being used. Poland, archaeological evidence of cheese making. Ukraine, Romania, earliest examples of traps used for hunting.
7,000 y a - Earliest example of Dolmen, single chamber tomb, consists of two stones supporting another on top (table design), found in western Europe, would spread and be common 4000 - 3000 BCE in Europe.
6950 - 6440 y a - Papua New Guinea, cultivation of Taro and Yam.
6,500 y a - Croatia, earliest example of an oven found. Slovenia, dental filling made with beeswax.
5600 BCE - Evidence of The Black Sea Flood, turning the fresh water lake into a salt water sea, rose shorelines and displaced populations (source of flood myths in religions).
5500 BCE - Pakistan, evidence of Cotton found in copper beads. Egypt, earliest Combs found (placing a leaf in the teeth can create a primitive sound instrument).
5500-5000 BCE - Serbia, Copper Smelting.
5200 - 4700 BCE - Iran, earliest evidence of a wheel, for pottery, made of stone or clay.
5000 BCE - Iranian plateau, evidence of Bronze made with naturally occurring arsenic. Tin would replace as the major ingredient (and releasing non-toxic vapors) in the late 3000 BCE period. Iran, evidence of wine found, using sealed containers. China, Hemp domestication (smoking was likely cause for spread, Iron Age would use for production); Rammed Earth construction technique. Egypt, Badarian culture starts farming, used boomerangs. Roundels, circular enclosure often with entrances aligned to solstice, would be constructed in Central Europe (Germany, 120-150 altogether). Siberia, oldest carpet found (likely a funeral gift, from Armenia, featured griffons). Mesopotamia: first use of Stamp Seals for government purposes; Rotary Quern milling stones are introduced. Armenia: possible origin of Apricots. Lake Zurich, cultivation of Pear.
4800 BCE - Egypt, early evidence of peas being grown. Cairn of Barnenez, Brittany, England, begins (burial monument and later bronze age use, considered one of the oldest and largest man made structures).
4700 - 4200 BCE - The town of Solnitstata, considered the oldest known settlement in Europe. Built around a salt deposit.
4500 BCE - Indus Valley, irrigation. Wine production reaches Greece. Carnac Stones, Brittany, France; would become large complex of standing stones, menhirs, domens, tumuli (burial mounds, with passage tombs), large rectangle formed by stone.
4500-4000 BCE - China, Investment Casting develops.
4200 - 4000 BCE - Mesopotamia develops true, easy to spin pottery wheels.
4000 BCE - (Mankind has achieved “Farmer status.”) Egyptians start building big Brick structures; manufacturing Papyrus; Gold artifacts. Earliest examples of Kilns. NE Italy, archaeological find of Appleseeds. Sicily, evidence of wine found. Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Horse domestication begins. Thought to be when Cattle were turned into Ox for Draft Animal purposes. Pontic Language Explosion. [People from north of the Caspian and Black Seas migrated around Eurasia, ancestor of western languages. (shared origins with: milk, horses, sheep, cattle, pigs, goats, grain, copper, carts, yoke, weaving, mead; patrilineal clans)]. Earliest examples of Viticulture (wine making). Levant, earliest examples of harvesting Olives; start using grain Silos. Art: Earliest depiction of Shoes, Sandals. China: example of a Loom for Silk production; Ramie (similar to flax, requires chemical processing, not as popular, believed to be used for Egyptian mummy wraps). Persia (Iran), Mung Bean domestication?, Chang (precursor to Harp) found on artwork, made with sheep guts. Mesopotamia: Stamp Seals come into use; Mirrors made of Copper; earliest pipes for moving water. Europe, farming reaches northern regions. Anatolia, Silver production.
4000 - 1000 BCE - Ethiopia, Teff is discovered (can feed people and livestock, building material).
6,000 y a - Earth experiences a cold climate period? (Starting maybe 500 years earlier and ending 500 years later.)
3800 - 3500 BCE - Czech Republic, possible evidence of earliest plowed fields.
5,700 y a - Lolland Island, a blue eyed, dark haired, dark skin woman spits out some Birch Bark gum. Oldest complete human genome extracted. Had Mononucleosis ("kissing disease"). Possible archeological evidence of pit traps used for migrating animal hunting.
3630 BCE - Oldest example of silk fabric found.
5,500 - 4,700 y a - Georgia, tomb found had honey remains on pottery. (This culture could identify Linden, Berry, and Meadow-Flower varieties.)
3500 BCE - City of Uruk: (Mesopotamia) begins outward expansion and influence, later first example of organized warfare (would influence Egyptians to start building pyramids); "Cylinder Seals," a type of noble seal, that can be rolled unto wet clay (would be popular until 1000 BCE). Iraq, Kish Tablet, considered to represent the early transition from pictographic to cuneiform. Mesopotamia, earliest Harps and Lyres found; Gold artifacts. Modern humans settle the western coast of Europe, hunter-gatherers. Egyptians show Cat domestication; Gold Smelting; used a vertical Gnomon as a primitive Sundial? Iran, Beer made from Barley. Armenia, earliest Leather Shoe found. China, Pottery in shape of silkworm indicates earliest example of Sericulture (silk worm production).
3500 - 3350 BCE - Mesopotamia, earliest evidence of wheeled vehicles. Indus Valley civilization uses Stamp Seals with a type of script.
3400 BCE (5,400 years ago) - First metal casting. France, Cow skull showing Trepanation found.
5,400 -5,100 y a - Itzi the Iceman dies in the mountains of Northern Italy. Had a copper axe. Earliest evidence of tattoos. Shoes made from two types of animal skin (bear and deer). Arsenic residue in his hair.
3300 BCE - Egypt, tomb paintings show people Dancing.
3200 BCE - Examples of using symbols to represent real life objects (would go to form written language). Ireland, construction begins on Newgrange, largest passage tomb in Europe, aligned to winter solstice. Egypt, Bead made of Meteoric Iron found.
3100 - 2900 BCE - Jemdet Nasr period, following fall of Uruk, would be known as establishing Cuneiform as a proper language.
3100 BCE - Upper and Lower Egypt unified. Mesopotamia, likely evidence of the earliest Lute type device.
3000 BCE - Onset of Bronze. Mesopotamia, Irrigation; Glass Beads appear (possible side effect of making metal); possible earliest Iron working. Sumer, Medical text found on tablet, believed oldest ever found. Egypt, first record of a Doctor named, Imhotep; Antimony harvested from rock and made into eye makeup; earliest evidence of domestic Donkeys in the south. Dromedary Camels likely domesticated in Somalia at this time. (Camel hair can be harvested for shelter and clothing, outer guard hairs make for water proof coats. Camel milk readily turns into yogurt. To turn into butter requires a clarifying agent and extended process.) Chicken reaches Europe from Asia. England, earliest Stone Circles found. Slovakia, Romania, earliest chainmail found. Sheep chosen for wooly coat, not long hair. China, Clay Bells found. India, River Buffalo domesticated (water buffalo); Jute grown for fiber (burlap). Northern Iran, earliest examples of Trumpets. SE Asia, earliest records of Radish.
2800 BCE - Solid evidence of plowed fields. China, Copper smelting discovered. Sumer, Battle Wagons (4 wheels, likely evolved into a Battle Cart, and later into Chariot).
2700 BCE - Chinese treatise on health. 40 kinds identified.
2650 BCE - Egypt, dental work found.
2630-10 BCE - Egypt, Pyramid of Djoser constructed by Imhotep, considered first.
2600 - 1900 BCE - Indus Valley, Stoneware Pottery (meaning fired at 1000 degrees Celsius), would become a major industry.
2560 BCE - Great Pyramid of Giza completed.
2500 BCE - Evidence of The Amber Road, trade route from the Baltic Sea to Mediterranean Sea. E Iran, Bactrian Camels domesticated. Iraq, "Lyres of Ur," considered world's oldest stringed instruments. Peru, oldest Sling ever found. Egypt, earliest depiction of a Khopesh (sword).
2500 - 2000 BCE - Mali, domestication of Pearl Millet. Turkey, Meteoric Iron dagger.
2400 BCE - Sumer, description of Prostitution and a Brothel-Temple to Fertility Goddess.
2300 BCE - Mesopotamia, Urukagina of Lagash, considered the earliest Law Code. (Widows and orphans exempt from taxes, state pays for funeral expenses, the rich must pay in silver and cannot force the poor against will, checked power of priests, protect from usury, abolished polyandry). Iran, Quince (fruit). China, oldest Gnomon (painted stick that casts a shadow for sundial purpose).
2200 BCE - China, first known tax, using salt.
2200-2000 BCE - Turkey, Iron Smelting.
2100 - 2050 BCE - City of Ur: Earliest written Code of Law discovered. References Butter. (Fines for bodily harm, references murder, robbery, adultery, rape. Two classes of people: free and slave.)
4000 - 3000 y a - Mesopotamia, earliest Scissors (shear, spring type). India, Mung Bean domesticated.
2000 BCE - Murals show horses pulling chariots. Horses become common in western Europe. England, Great Orme Mine started, would become largest copper mine in region (most productive between 1700 - 1400 BCE), used bone and stone tools. China, Bells made out of metal (Bellfounding); domestication of the Swamp Buffalo (water buffalo). Ghana, earliest evidence of Cowpea (black eyed pea). India, Canola/Rapeseed. Egypt, Lupin Beans. Greece, Kale grown. Pakistan, Harappa, earliest sanitation in housing.
1800 BCE - Egypt, medical text on gynecological issues; Safflower for pigment. India, Iron working.
1754 BCE - Code of Hammurabi (recognized Prostitution and gave women protection and inheritance; theorized that a fertility goddess had a temple that offered sex workers).
1700 - 1200 BCE - (Late Bronze Age) 8 societies in Middle East: Aegean, Egyptian, Hittite, Canaanite, Cypriot, Mitanni, Assyrian, Babylonian. Considered a "globalized world system." Next time this would occur is today.
1700 BCE - The "Mari Letters" reference Minoan society, King Hammurabi.
1650 BCE - Greece, earliest chariots found.
1628 BCE - Island of Thera/Santorini experiences huge volcanic eruption, possibly causing a tsunami thru eastern Europe.
1600-1500 BCE - Greece, Helmet formed of boar tusks found.
1500 BCE - Modern Trumpet design found in eastern Mediterranean. India, Pigeon Pea domesticated. Egypt, Mercury found in tombs; archaeologists find earliest Sundials found. China, Water Clocks.
1400 BCE - Syria, Hurrian Songs, cuneiform music tablet in Ugarit. Greece, oldest body armor found, made of bronze, Dendra Panoply. China, Meteoric Iron axeheads. Art representation of Scale Mail in Egypt. Art: representation of Shields.
1350 BCE - Turkey, Hittites chronicle Egyptian prisoners of war bringing "the plague.”
1300 BCE - Uluburun Shipwreck, off coast of Turkey, had 300 sixty pound copper ingots (10 tons), 1 ton of tin, and tin objects and ingots of colored glass (blue, rose, brown). From Cypress/Minoa.
1300? - 900? BCE - Eastern Mediterranean experiences a 300? year drought. (Could also be: Cypress 1200- 850. Syria 1250-1187. Galilee 1250-1100)
1279 BCE - Battle of Qadesh (Egypt vs Hittites).
1200 BCE (3,200 years ago) - Onset of Iron smelting. Earliest Camel saddles appear. Last appearance of Megaliths. India, earliest evidence of Firewalking.
1200 BCE - Eastern Mediterranean civilization collapse. Drought in Greece. Earthquake series.
1188-1177 BCE - Egypt suffers invasions from "The Sea People."
1185 BCE - Syria, Ugarit Letter, Famine.
1140? BCE - Ramses 6th, mummy found to have small pox. No record of people dying from small pox.
1100 BCE - Phoenicians establish nation. Europe, Iron Age.
1100? BCE - Earth experiences a cold temperature period?
1100-750 BCE - Egypt, Iron Smelting.
1070 BCE - Egyptian mummy found with Silk in hair, earliest evidence of Silk Road.
1000 BCE - Early Cuneiform script (late stages, still pictograph in nature). Bactria, Barbat (primitive lute). Egypt, Kenaf is grown for fibers, leaves can be eaten by animals and humans (similar to Jute and Hemp; rope, rough fabric, sails). Mediterranean, Cabbage domesticated. China, Iron Age.
930 BCE - Camel bones found in Arabian peninsula. Jordan, earliest Bloomery for Iron working found.
800 - 600 BCE - Ethiopia, Sorghum Wheat begins to be harvested.
800 BCE - Considered the beginning of Ancient Greece, after the Mycenae Civilization. China, Bloomeries used.
700-500 BCE - The Illiad composed.
700 BCE - Turkey, first Coins in Lydia. Assyria, first equipment recognized as a Saddle for a Horse.
600 BCE - Earliest example of a Steel Sword.
600-400 BCE - Ancient Greece rise of scientific inquiry and philosophy
550 BCE - The Illiad written down.
500 BCE - Camels used in warfare. Persians use kettle drums for military maneuvers, frighten enemies. Greece, Grape Syrup, early form of sweetener and preservative. Blackberries consumed around Europe. Spain, Disk Quern developed.
400 BCE - The "Celts/Gaeil" settle Ireland.
396 BCE - Olympics, horn blowing competitions.
314 BCE - China, first mention of Sweet Orange.
298 BCE - Foot powered Loom.
200 BCE - China starts making paper.
100 CE - Sorghum Wheat domesticated. Mediterranean, Cauliflower.
400 CE - Bellfounding comes to Europe.
800 CE - Start of most recent Interglacial peak period.
1200 CE (800 years ago) - First Cannon foundry. Europe, first Paper mills.
1250 - 1850 CE - Earth experiences a small Ice Age.
1500 CE - Concept of Religion becomes clearly defined.
1650 CE - Pendulum Clock.
1750 CE - France, Strawberry grown in garden. Barbados, Grapefruit.
1760 CE - Bat guano begins showing increased levels of lead, indicating the Industrial Revolution.
1880 CE (140 years ago), Carnegie steel erects skyscrapers.
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2020.09.17 21:45 ar_david_hh Sep/17/2020 news: \\ TUMO expansion: labs & nano-tech \\ anti-corruption: officials to disclose purchases \\ oppo vs govt: verbal battle \\ busted: rector & cops \\ clinics+ \\ PM intervenes \\ COVID is back? \\ tourism sights \\ Human Capital Index \\ bills pass: free lawyer, genocide calls \\ debt

TUMO high-tech school to expand / Labs / Nano-tech / Programming / Science

Education Ministry gave a 15,000m2 land in Yerevan to TUMO so it can build an engineering and scientific facility.
 
Education Minister Harutyunyan: // the new labs will examine nano-technologies, biotech, and artificial intelligence.
Other universities can build their own specialized labs in TUMO and cooperate with TUMO's labs, under the condition that everyone will share all labs. Adults only.
 
They'll teach programming to non-programmers by using a French school's curriculum. Students of all ages are welcome.
A French university's programming faculty will be established in this building.
 
The construction begins in 2021 and ends in 2023. The facility will be self-financed a few years later. //
https://armtimes.com/hy/article/195976

Parliament voted not to discuss Education Minister's resignation

Here is a context in case you missed the fight between opposition parties and Education Minister Harutyunyan: https://www.reddit.com/armenia/comments/iu1dcm/sep162020_news_education_reforms_ministe
https://armtimes.com/hy/article/195960

Pashinyan joins Education Minister to roast Tsarukyan

Context: yesterday the "traditionalist" opposition politicians accused Education Minister Harutyunyan of harming the Armenian language, church, history, etc. because they disagree with the upcoming major reforms. The argument heated and the Minister said you can't rape women in church then talk about the church (hinting to BHK leader Tsarukyan's rape conviction).
 
Pashinyan today: // it's hard not to agree with the Minister. At first, you as a sergeant of police forces invite foreign women to show them a church, then you group-rape the guests and mug them. Then you engage in the protection of national values and identity. A true "patriotism". //
https://www.facebook.com/nikol.pashinyan/posts/2752700655050312

Tsarukyan roasts back

Tsarukyan responds: // I think it's time to amend the Constitution to clearly state that people with serious mental problems should not have the right to hold high political positions and endanger the public. //
 
Context: it's aimed at Pashinyan. Possibly related to the former regime's media circulating rumors that Pashinyan was exempt from military service due to mental problems. The record, however, shows he was exempt because two of his brothers had already served, which disqualified him.
Former regime also spread unverified Telegram rumors that Pashinyan went to a psychiatric clinic in 2019 and they even gave a specific doctors' name. Fact-checkers found it to be false; the doctor wasn't even in Armenia.
https://armtimes.com/hy/article/195974

Ruling MPs respond to Tsarukyan / Minister's past

QP MP Alen Simonyan: // I'm confident that Tsarukyan's post about mental disorder was aimed at a fellow BHK MP Gevorg Petrosyan [the overly-traditionalist and anti-gay dude]. There are reports that he had mental problems dating back to the time when he was the Labor & Social Affairs Minister. His mental problem is why he had to leave the position after only holding the position for a few months. I'm sure the decision to replace him was made by Tsarukyan, who is currently trying to pretend to be a politician. //
https://armtimes.com/hy/article/195974

BHK replies / they didn't joke about amending Constitution

BHK MP Iveta: // whoever that [mental health Facebook] post was aimed at has understood it was for them. No doubt QP MP Alen has a vivid imagination [about it being aimed at BHK Minister]. We're serious about amending the Constitution to block officials with serious mental problems. //
https://armtimes.com/hy/article/195986

QP isn't joking, either / a bill already exists

QP MP Kristine: // then perhaps BHK should join and support the bill I introduced in 2019 which would require mental tests for MP candidates. If Parliament MPs elect a prosecutor who has to undergo a mental evaluation, why shouldn't MPs themselves undergo one?
BHK was against this bill. At the time, they said it was discriminatory and that anyone should be able to become MP. They must have had a change of mind since then. Maybe they'll support it now. //
https://armtimes.com/hy/article/195997

QP summoned a meeting

The ruling party held a large meeting this evening. The PM, Governors, and Ministers were present. It wasn't over the spat with Tsarukyan.
Some QP MPs will resign to get a job at the government. There might be other rotation.
https://armtimes.com/hy/article/195990
https://www.armtimes.com/hy/article/196009

anti-corruption reform: purchases by public officials could be monitored

Justice Minister Badasyan introduced a draft bill to amend the law to require public officials to disclose [in annual declaration form] any purchases larger than $4,000, or if a collection of similar purchases exceed $6,000 (so officials won't split the same purchase into smaller pieces to hide).
 
Moreover, the newly established Corruption Prevention Commission would be allowed to request an explanation if the official gains large properties within 2 years of leaving the office.
 
The definition of a luxury property would lower from $16,000 to $8,000 so more properties would need to be declared.
https://armtimes.com/hy/article/196000

should city council members also disclose their properties?

Another anti-corruption reform will require municipality councilmen to file the aforementioned declarations.
 
LHK is against this because "it adds extra burden on councilmen so the cities could lose valuable councilmen who can't manage to handle their work and file papers at the same time. It already takes a great amount of effort to convince some good councilmen to work."
QP countered LHK's argument with, "it doesn't matter that good councilman volunteer their time for the city. If they are public officials and make decisions for the public, they should file paperwork to reduce corruption."
 
One of these logics is simp while the other is chad. You decide... https://armtimes.com/hy/article/196000

former Yerevan State University rector is charged with embezzlement

Aram Simonyan is accused of embezzlement and/or waste. It's related to the Feb/19/2019 investigation in which he was accused of taking $10,000 in bribes. The SOC auditors had also discovered $830,000 in "damages" at the time.
 
It was later clarified that the new charges are about alleged embezzlement of $71,000 in 2015, which is part of that wider $830,000 corruption investigation done by SOC two years ago.
The former rector denied the accusations.
https://www.armtimes.com/hy/article/195941
https://armtimes.com/hy/article/195956
https://armtimes.com/hy/article/195979

ex-police chief Gasparyan charged with assaulting a journalist

Vladimir Gasparyan is officially charged with assaulting Azatutyun journalists who were using a drone to film his Sevan beach-front mansion, which was built too close to the lake and is subject to partial removal.
https://www.armtimes.com/hy/article/196017

investigators bust another police brutality case

This one involves a prominent weightlifter and international referee Armen Ghazaryan. He and another detainee were assaulted in a police station by a group of cops, say the investigators.
https://armtimes.com/hy/article/195992

Hardline traditionalists vs Goerge Soros

Self-proclaimed hardcore traditionalists from "Kamq" group danced in front of the govt building and attempted to pour gasoline and burn Goerge Soros's dummy:
https://youtu.be/1NmFTCFscZI?t=111

Air Force One painting

Some outlets circulated rumors that last month the PM's office spent $250,000 to paint Prime Minister's Airbus A319. The govt says it's "completely fake news".
https://www.armtimes.com/hy/article/196030

the new judges took the oath

Three new Constitutional Court judges were earlier approved to fill the vacant seats in court. Today was the oath ceremony for two of them. They swore while in Parliament.
https://armtimes.com/hy/article/195957

update: clothing import tariffs

Last week several clothing importer businesses protested the new law that will calculate border tariffs based on each imported item instead of the package's weight. Something about EAEU rules that were announced last year but was implemented now due to COVID delay.
Today the IRS and businesses met to discuss ways to ease the burden on businesses. They struck a cooperation deal.
https://armtimes.com/hy/article/195965

COVID stats / schools / another wave coming?

4,319 tested in one day, the highest since July. +295 infected. +162 healed. +2 deaths. 3,232 active. 252,158 tested.
 
Pashinyan: although the daily tests have increased, the number of daily infections has increased too, crossing 200 again. The public should be concerned.
Healthcare Ministry: 7% of tested came positive. That's higher than before.
Pashinyan: I saw street traffic for the first time since March. Probably related to school reopening. Perhaps the uptick in infections is related to the shopping/social activities that happen before the school season.
Practically, masks are our only tool to fight the virus. The police should strictly enforce the mask law. Masks aren't for covering your chin, it's for your mouth and nose.
Healthcare Ministry: we predict a rapid spread of COVID. 1 patient will infect >1 healthy. Right now it's at 1.02, just days after it was less than 1. Wash your hands and keep a distance.
https://armtimes.com/hy/article/195962
https://armtimes.com/hy/article/195963
https://armtimes.com/hy/article/195980

Coronawalrus forces Armenians to finally explore their country

Internal tourism boomed while air travel was banned. Here are some lesser-known sites that Armenians "discovered...
Tsiranavor church
... is in Ashtarak, Aragatsotn. The legend says 3 sisters fell in love with a dude named Sargis. The two elder sisters sacrifice themselves so the small sis will be happy with Sargis. They wear orange "tsirani" dress and jumped off a cliff, hence the name Tsiranavor. (FFS)
Dashtadem Castle
Located near Dashtadem, Aragatsotn, the castle was built on the 7th century on top of an ancient Urartian castle.
Agarak historical-cultural reserve
... is near Agarak, Aragatsotn. It's a rocky promontory of volcanic tuff protrusions (god bless google translate).
More in the link with maps and photos: https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027881.html

Yerevan's clinics are developing

As part of a plan to develop Yerevan clinics, which are often a subject of quality-related complaints, this year the city spent $415,000 (3x vs 2018) to buy medical equipment.
"Clinics should be good enough to prevent patients from ending up in hospitals," said Mayor Marutyan, "last year we purchased 325 pieces of equipment. This year it's 134. Five clinics will be renovated."
https://armtimes.com/hy/article/195981

Pashinyan intervenes to extend Yolyan director's contract

Yolyan blood clinic's director was supposed to be laid off on October 1st due to the contract's expiration. Ministry said it was due to his retirement age. A group of doctors asked Pashinyan to extend the contract, or else they'd quit.
Today Pashinyan decided to extend his contract. He also criticized some of the doctors who "pressured him by threatening to quit and intentionally place cancer-patient children's lives at risk."
https://www.armtimes.com/hy/article/196014

The discrimination of ethnic Armenians in Moscow continues

Moscow's largest Azeri-owned "Food City" bazaar still won't allow Armenian sellers to place an ad sign in their booths. Sellers complain it harms trade.
Truck drivers with Armenian license plates still aren't allowed to enter, although the bazaar administration left a "loophole" and allows trucks if the plates are covered.
Moscow authorities earlier claimed the conflict was "settled" but the sellers say otherwise.
The conflict between Food City and Armenians began after Azerbaijan lost the July Battles and Food City's Azeri owner got upset at ethnic Armenian civilians.
https://www.armtimes.com/hy/article/195938

the fighter jets fly together

Pashinyan uploaded a video of all 4 SU-30SM fighter jets flying together for the first time during training.
https://youtu.be/qi7TsafUJQk

making fighter jet flights safer

Today the govt approved a transaction to repair two pieces of technologies (PAR-10 and MRM-80) to make jet flights safer and good and bad weather conditions.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027954.html

more families of deceased soldiers to get free lawyers

Parliament voted 120-1 to approve a BHK bill to expand the list of people who qualify for free legal services.
Until now, families of those who died from the enemy fire could get lawyers for free. With the new law, non-combat deaths will also qualify.
Presumably, this isn't only about legal services related to the soldier's death; it's in general. The families cannot use the free legal service for business disputes, trials in which the compensation sum is very large, etc.
https://armtimes.com/hy/article/195967

inciting a genocide is now a felony crime

Parliament voted 121-0 to approve a QP bill to set an 8-10 year prison sentence for publicly and directly inciting a genocide.
10-14 years if it's done by a group with the help of mass media.
Up to life sentence if it's done by a group of public officials.
https://armtimes.com/hy/article/195968

sports gambling offices will be 150 meters away from...

... schools, cultural-historical buildings, government buildings, etc.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027946.html

gas explosion victims will get new apartments

A gas exploded in a Yerevan apartment complex a few weeks ago. 12 families were left homeless.
Today the govt decided to give them vouchers to buy new apartments. The subsidy is calculated based on the property's average price at $690/m2.
$378,000 will be spent for 12 families. They can spend all the aid on a "large" apartment, or they can buy a small one and keep part of the cash.
https://armtimes.com/hy/article/195978

preparing for Sep-21 Independence Day celebrations

The national symphonic orchestra will perform in the evening on the roof of the Opera building. The orchestra uploaded a teaser photo that said "can you guess where we are right now?". (հետո էլ երաժիշտներց կռիշի փող կհավաքեն որ ջարդածը վերանորոգեն)
 
This year, too, the organizers will invite entrepreneurs as part of the "Մեր ժամանակների հերոսը" (hero of our times) program launched by Pashinyan last year. It's about encouraging startups. "The theme of celebrations is to honor the citizens of Armenia."
 
Elsewhere, the Armenia flag will be lit on the world's tallest Burj Khalifa building, and the Niagara falls.
https://armtimes.com/hy/article/195959
https://armtimes.com/hy/article/195983

Armenian wrestlers win 12 medals

... during an international competition in Belarus. 2 gold, 5 silver, 5 bronze, unlimited minutes and SMS.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1028006.html

Human Capital Index

Armenia has slightly improved its ranking in WorldBank's Human Capital Index among 174 countries.
"A baby born in Armenia today could expect to achieve just 58% of their potential human capital, relative to a benchmark of complete education and full health."
http://arka.am/en/news/society/armenia_slightly_improves_its_standing_in_world_bank_human_capital_index_report/

Foreign debt

Armenia's foreign debt was reducing until the pandemic arrived. There was a sharp increase in April, followed by a smaller monthly increase.
Today it's $6.057b compared to $5.700b in April.
https://hetq.am/hy/article/121646

Iranian company will build a trash facility in Hrazdan

As part of a 2016 agreement with the European Development Bank, Armenia will have a new trash collection facility in Hrazdan, with European standards.
Iranian Tunnel Sad Ariana won the auction for the contract after meeting the standards and offering the lowest price.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027956.html

Metsamor nuclear power plant

The ongoing repairs are meant to extend its lifespan until 2026. Today Armenia held talks with the Russian RosAtom energy giant about the possibility to extend the reactor beyond 2026.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027986.html

Armenian writings of Leonardo da Vinci

Leonardo used to write mysterious letters with both hands with each hand going in the opposite direction. He used to drop other mysterious bits and pieces to confuse the reader.
The dude also wrote an "Armenian letter" which depicts part of Armenia.
More: https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027909.html
https://allinnet.info/interesting/armenian-writings-of-leonardo-da-vinci/

Armenian "Krisp" high-tech company

... made it in Forbes's top-20 "rising star" list. It uses AI to remove background noise and recently held a successful fundraiser.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrickcai/2020/09/16/cloud-100-rising-stars-2020
 
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2020.09.14 23:27 ar_david_hh Sep/14/2020: \\ election fraud: BHK's factory \\ Kocharyan & $600m \\ foreign affairs: USA, RUS, AZE events, shots fired \\ economic freedom index \\ parliament grills wannabe judges \\ berries (lol) \\ music & culture \\ COVID \\ school begins \\ infrastructure \\ Yerevan's metro, buses, elevators

new election fraud charges against BHK / Cement factory

BHK party leaders were earlier charged with buying voters during the 2017 elections.
The new report says: // during the 2012 and 2017 elections, the employees of [Gagik Tsarukyan's] AraratCement factory were threatened with termination unless they joined the BHK party and recruited voters. Some of them paid bribes to residents. //
A felony case is launched. More info is being gathered. https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027607.html

Robik Kocharyan's "$600 million investment in Russian company" / April 2016

Parliamentary security committee chief Andranik K. says they gathered 800 pages of facts about April 2016 battles. The investigation of the former government's handling of the job is over and will be finalized this month. The Parliament will then decide how to publish it.
 
Andranik K. continues: // Robert Kocharyan is successfully preventing the March 1st trial from entering the main fact-presentation stage. They're manipulating the court to delay the process.
When Kocharyan said he didn't have the $2m bail to get out, various oligarchs agreed to help him.
One of the donors was [Russian tech giant] SISTEMA's director Yevtushenko. Kocharyan has been a SISTEMA board member for years, which means he must have had his "share". The public needs to know these details.
 
Years earlier, Garnik Margaryan revealed that the Kocharyan family invested $600m in SISTEMA. It was not denied. There were overwhelming facts. Garnik Margaryan was later arrested and released.
We need to know where that $600m came from and how they were invested in SISTEMA. The March 1st court recently agreed to discuss Kocharyan's finances, but behind closed doors, which prevented the public from knowing details. //
https://factor.am/283490.html

19 years ago today...

Vladimir Putin arrived in Armenia to discuss Kocharyan's plan to give Russia/Russian companies some of the Armenian infrastructures in exchange for debt cancellation. The first deal was worth $100m.
https://youtu.be/wI46aX1pOnM?t=295

Don't miss Sunday news

Ինչպես պապն էր ասում ՝ գիրք չկարդացողը շան տղայա:
https://www.reddit.com/armenia/comments/is77j5/sep132020_news_postjuly_battles_in_tavush_borde

Armenia-U.S. relations

"Armenian-American Strategic Dialogue" is a new cooperation initiative that began in 2019. Its second session was held today. The two countries will outline new priorities for cooperation.
Justice Minister Badasyan discussed the anti-corruption and police reforms with the U.S. ambassador.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027535.html
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027589.html

Armenia-Russia relations

AM-RU soldiers used radio-electronic weapons to shut down "enemy drones" during a joint military drill.
"Shikla" units were used to locate and destroy the "drones" by using 23mm automatic guns, within 2.5km distance, and 1.5km altitude.
1,500 soldiers participated in drills which involved SU-25 jets and helicopters.
A group of Armenian soldiers flew to Russia to participate in the upcoming Caucasus-2020 military drills.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027596.html
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027624.html

Armenia-Egypt relations

MFA Mnatsakanyan visited Egypt, met their President and MFA, and discussed Turkey's destabilizing actions in the eastern Mediterranean and Caucasus.
"We have strong relations with Egypt dating back to centuries. Armenians living in Egypt are allowed to preserve their culture and language. They've made significant contributions towards the formation of Egyptian institutes."
Context: Greece and Egypt recently signed a maritime deal which angered Turkey.
"Armenia's goal is to provide physical security for Nagorno Karabakh population and to help with recognition of their right to self-determination."
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027538.html
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027539.html
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027543.html
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027578.html

shots fired at the border

Armenian army fired shots to stop the Azeri army from conducting engineering work aimed at strengthening trenches. The army denied the Azeri govt's claims that the shots were fired at Azeri Aliyebli village.
https://www.armtimes.com/hy/article/195711

Azerbaijani government

... isn't happy that several Lebanese-Armenians settled in the Artsakh Republic. They contacted international bodies and OSCE.
https://factor.am/283576.html

Azerbaijani minorities

An ethnic Avar activist complained about ethnic discrimination by Azeri authorities. "They are stopping Avars for no reason and extorting more bribes than they do from ethnic Azeris. They won't let Avars start a business and have a normal life in [Azerbaijan's northern] Balakan region. We ask [international leaders] for help. We don't want conflict but they are leaving no choice."
https://youtu.be/yeZqaP8gu54

Azerbaijani air traffic control

... prohibited two Russian military planes from using Azeri airs to move back from Syria to Russia. The Russian planed had to divert and use Turkmen territories.
https://www.panarmenian.net/arm/news/285113/

economic freedom index

Canadian Fraser ranks Armenia 18th out of 162 in terms of economic freedoms. It's up 9 positions from last time.
Hong Kong 1, Georgia 8, Armenia 18, Moldova 78, Azerbaijan 112, Venezuela 162.
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/sites/default/files/economic-freedom-of-the-world-2020.pdf
https://www.panarmenian.net/arm/news/285087/

Parliament is Q&A-ing Constitutional Court nominees

Context: Constitutional Court has 3 vacant seats. The govt, the president, and the judicial branch have each nominated one candidate, who need to go through a Parliamentary Q&A and a secret-ballot vote before approval.
 
Opposition BHK and LHK will boycott the election process because they opposed the initial process that kicked out the 3 old judges and demoted HHK's Hrayr Tovmasyan. They also complained that none of the candidates met them one-on-one for talks.
 
The Q&A and appointment process will be monitored by the OSCE Human Rights division in cooperation with the Armenian HR Ombudsman.
 
The first candidate for Q&A is Yervand Khundukyan, nominated by the judicial branch. He was introduced to Parliament by a fellow judge.
The candidate said he doesn't support the proposed idea of merging the Constitutional Court with the Cassations Court.
"We the judges are generally conservative towards such changes. I'm against major reorganizations. The role of CC and Cassations currently differ from one another."
 
He wants CC to have more independent powers over interpreting constitutional norms, while at the same time to give Parliament the right to "respond" if CC rules something unconstitutional.
He was asked about his past activities and his role in the shutting down of opposition A1+ media outlet during the former regime.
During another Q&A session, Ind. MP Babajanyan got into a heated argument with the candidate and accused him of being generally "intolerant".
 
There were also personal questions about his sons' alleged "preferential" treatment in the military. He denied preferential treatment, saying the location of his son's service was chosen through the regular lottery system.
Meanwhile, the Corruption Prevention Commission will be vetting his past activities.
 
NGO chief Arthur Sakunts criticized the judicial branches' nominee, saying he has a questionable past and had 13 of his verdicts overruled by ECHR in the past.
"At one point Pashinyan said any judge who had a verdict overruled by ECHR should automatically resign. If this nominee is approved, it'll be a step backward from revolution's spirit."
 
The second candidate is Arthur Vagharshyan, nominated by president Sarkissian. He was presented to Parliament by the president's aide.
When asked to comment LHK's complaints that he didn't meet LHK for discussions, he said he wasn't aware that it was him who had to initiate such conversation. "Had I known that LHK wanted to talk, I would have contacted them."
 
The third candidate is Edgar Shatiryan, nominated by the government. He was presented to Parliament by Justice Minister for Q&A.
 
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027542.html
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027548.html
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027555.html
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027560.html
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027558.html
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027584.html
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027585.html
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027593.html
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027605.html
https://factor.am/283238.html
https://factor.am/283238.html
https://factor.am/283466.html
https://factor.am/283594.html
https://www.armtimes.com/hy/article/195683

the world is stress-eating berries and pumpkin

Pashinyan: the exports of strawberries, blackberry, and currant (հաղարջ) has increased by 166% during the pandemic, reaching $5.5m turnover.
It's important to note that it's mostly produced in greenhouses which helps to develop that industry and make us less dependent on weather conditions.
The farmer doesn't have to wait to find out the size of the harvest. It's "you harvest what you plant".
Similarly, the exports of mushroom, pumpkin and spinach grew 62%, reaching $3.2m.
Flower exports rose 17%, reaching $3.9m.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027532.html

the world is producing music during the pandemic

Composer Tigran Mansuryan wrote two pieces during COVID. It'll be presented to the audience soon. The orchestra plans 50 performances dedicated to its 15th anniversary.
One of the new pieces, called "the sound of silence" is about the pandemic, and was written at the request of a German musician who launched an initiative to ask musicians around the world to compose a piece relevant to current times.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027611.html

the organizers of Dilijan concert won't be penalized

The new Quarantine rules are laxer and allow up to 60 people at a commercial concert. The police say yesterday's Dilijan concert met the requirements. Patrons wore masks, had their temperatures taken, etc.
Prime Minister's office criticized the police's decision, saying "you and I both saw that the safety measures weren't respected."
https://factor.am/283445.html
https://factor.am/283540.html

fight in Gyumri

Presumably a mask-related confrontation between the police and Gyumri resident let to a scuffle. Arms were twisted. A woman laid on the police vehicle to prevent it from leaving with the detainee.
https://youtu.be/AXEsaadSmkU

Russian Airoflot will resume flights to Armenia

on October 25th
https://www.panarmenian.net/arm/news/285089/

schools resume after a lengthy pandemic break

The Emergency ended a few days ago and was replaced with less strict "Quarantine" which allows schools to operate under strict safety conditions.
Only first-graders were allowed to attend today, to prevent overcrowding. The rest will go tomorrow.
Thousands of teachers and students with chronic health problems will continue with online education.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027530.html
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027577.html
https://www.reddit.com/armenia/comments/ik4ge4/aug312020_news_archaeologists_examine_a_strange/?

new schools are being built

21 new preschools will open across Armenia on September 21st, says Education Ministry. The rural facilities will come equipped with the necessary furniture.
It is co-funded by the World Bank. 136 such facilities have been built since 2019.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027531.html

Infrastructure upgrades across Armenia

5 more seismic-proof schools were rebuilt across Armenia.
https://www.armtimes.com/hy/article/195750
 
Madina, Gegharquniq will have two subsidized projects to install lighting on all streets and to build an irrigation network.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027603.html
 
Chkalovka, Gegharquniq will have several streets and parks renovated by the end of this year, for the first time since the 1980s.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027604.html
 
Azatan's main road is being renovated. It connects to the M1 highway.
https://www.armtimes.com/hy/article/195753

NSS busts Gyumri officials with corruption

The NSS says: we found corruption in city-run "Yuri Vardanyan Sports Center" and "Hamalir Youth Sports Center".
Officials from these organizations hired 24 fake employees beginning in 2010 and embezzled $89,000 in salaries.
A felony cause is launched. https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027553.html

Yerevan replaces more Soviet-era elevators

... in apartment complexes around the capital. 134 out of 3,500 have been replaced. 370 more this year.
"For comparison, only 20 were replaced in the period between Armenia's independence and 2018," flexed Municipality spokesman.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027592.html

Yerevan could reform its architecture department

Mayor Marutyan says they're thinking about abolishing the position of "chief Yerevan architect" to replace it with some kind of a committee.
Recently the chief architect Arthur Meschyan resigned after promising in 2018 to serve only two years.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027600.html

Yerevan's upcoming new 12-meter long buses...

... need to be purchased through an auction. None of the sellers met the requirement. A new auction will be held to buy the 100 buses.
As for the auction for the other 100 mini-buses, there is already a winner. Buses will arrive in 3 months.
There are also plans to buy medium-sized 9-meter buses.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027599.html

update: Yerevan's new metro station

Last month we learned that Mayor Marutyan scrapped the plans to have a private company built a bridge then a separate metro station with malls on top. Instead, the city plans to use public funds to pay a lot less and build a bridge with a metro station on top.
 
Today Marutyan confirmed that they discussed it with the federal government and decided that public funds will be used. It'll cost $35m for the feds. "The government has reassured that they have the money," said Marutyan.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027595.html

President Sarkissian met the British Science Association director..

... Lord Ara Darzi, an ethnic Armenian and a child of the Genocide survivor. Ara became the director last week. The two discussed Sarkissian's ATOM scientific initiative and possible cooperation in a program related to artificial intelligence.
Sarkissian then visited Cambridge's science center to eat free pizza because someone was doing a generous giveaway this sentence is fake news designed to test if you're still reading.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027591.html
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027619.html
https://www.reddit.com/armenia/comments/iod3a6/sep72020_news_electric_car_imports_skyrocket/

How this village in Armenia is keeping a 5000-year-old cheese-making tradition alive

https://www.insider.com/village-in-armenia-is-keeping-cheese-making-tradition-alive-2020-2?jwsource=cl

Grandmaster Levon Aronyan

Finished third in the online Champions Showdown: Chess 9LX competition held yesterday.
He scored 5.5 out of 9 after tying with Magnus and Kasparov but losing to Lagrave.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027527.html

Exhibition dedicated to composer Komitas

... was launched in the Romanian city of Georgen, aided by local officials and the Armenian community.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1027562.html
 
You've read 2044 words. 2044 is when we'll finally have flying cars.

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2) Currency in Armenian ֏ unless specified otherwise.
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2020.09.07 20:31 ar_david_hh Sep/7/2020 news: \\ electric car imports skyrocket \\ inciting genocide = life sentence \\ tourist boulevard on Sevan shores \\ defamation law \\ EU deportations \\ anti-corruption busts \\ անճոռնի գորտը \\ March 1st statue & victims \\ COVID & economy \\ telecom & 5G \\ app: pick your doctor \\ ...

Parliament resumes the sessions after a lengthy break.

155-fold increase in electric vehicles / No VAT import tax

Nature Ministry wants you to drive electric, so they canceled import taxes on electric passenger cars last year.
Now they have a bill to waive taxes on 5-tons electric trucks. It's aimed at eliminating cargo trucks that leave a taste of gasoline in your mouth when they drive nearby. You know you felt it...
Imports of electric cars have gone from 12 in 2018, to 668 in 2H19, to 1863 in 1H20.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026915.html

Armenia prepares to sign a deportee readmission agreement with EU

Parliament gave preliminary approval to sign an immigration agreement with Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, Bulgaria, and Luxemburg. It states that the Armenian govt will aid the process of accepting back illegal immigrants from those countries.
There is already such agreement with France, Estonia, and Czechia.
 
2020 became the first year when the govt agreed to aid the returning deportees with a $125/mo housing subsidy for 6 months.
97% of Armenian migrants don't get refugee status in the EU because the experts conclude they aren't persecuted in Armenia.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026863.html
https://news.am/arm/news/600836.html

A warning before a ticket?

BHK party drafted a bill to issue a warning before giving a ticket to residents who violate COVID safety rules.
https://www.civilnet.am/news/2020/09/07/Նախազգուշացում-իսկ-կրկնվելու-դեպքում-տուգանք․-առաջարկվում-է-փոխել-տուգանելու-մեխանիզմը/394269

Armenia prepares to criminalize incitement of genocide

Parliament gave preliminary approval to proceed with a law that would imprison people between 8 years to life imprisonment if they publicly encourage a genocide.
The severity of punishment depends on whether the perpetrators are a group of officials who used mass-media, or an individual who used lesser tools.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026876.html

Defamation penalties could increase

Parliament gave preliminary approval to a QP bill that could increase the penalty for insult and defamation five-fold, making it $10k and $20k.
The author of the bill says the purpose is to reduce instances of people registering fake online accounts/outlets to spread slander and insults. It'll be discussed with other parties before a vote.
 
The union of journalists criticized the bill and said the excessively-high penalties could violate free speech by forcing to shut down media outlets.
The government also found the proposed penalties too harsh and suggested a $4k and $6k penalty instead.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026904.html
https://factor.am/281693.html

Fake food production could become a crime

QP party drafted a bill to prohibit the production of "fake" food. There is already a law against dangerous fake alcohol, but the food is currently "unprotected".
Producers could face between a $415 fine to 5 years in prison (if someone dies).
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026901.html

10km tourist promenade across Lake Sevan shores / Who owns the lands?

On April we learned that the govt is working on a new 10km pedestrian boulevard across the shores of Lake Sevan, to attract tourists. Pashinyan created a group tasked with examining suitable lands and legal issues.
Hetq media outlet has also examined the high-profile owners of the lands near the area of the proposed promenade. Some of the buildings are illegal because they were built too close to the lake.
Nature Ministry sent noticed to thousands of property owners and urged them to remove their properties.
https://hetq.am/hy/article/121171

ex-Deputy Minister is arrested on corruption charges

The report says: // HHK Vahan Poghosyan served as Tuberculosis Center director and was earlier charged for a 2019 embezzlement, and released on $10k bail.
Later, more corruption was found during his 2015-2016 activities. A decision was made to arrest him.
 
Being the chief coordinator of the anti-tuberculosis and HIV fight in Armenia, including the manager of the aid received by the U.S., he colluded with other officials to embezzle $163,000.
He also registered fake employees and stole their salaries, and appropriated state property.
12 people are charged in a felony case. //
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026947.html

2018 Constitutional Court (CC) hijacking trial

Context: HHK hijacked CC in 2018. They convinced CC's chief judge to resign by giving him a new job. With the CC chief's position being vacant, HHK decided to appoint their fellow MP Hrayr Tovmasyan as a judge.
The problem was, the new Constitution was supposed to activate soon and HHK wouldn't have enough time to appoint and approve.
To make it work, two HHK officials allegedly falsified documents and dates to fit the deadlines. The two officials are Ara Babloyan and Arsen Babayan. They were charged with a felony in 2019.
 
Today was their trial. The court deliberated on the level of personal movement restrictions on defendants.
The prosecutors agreed to allow Ara Babloyan to travel abroad, citing his good behavior and his new job.
As for Arsen Babayan, prosecutors wanted the restrictions to remain in place, but the court struck them down.
 
P.S. Arsen Babayan is the HHK official who recently joined ex-NSS chief Arthur Vanetsyan to form the Hayreniq Party.
https://factor.am/281631.html
https://factor.am/281668.html

Corruption bust / Yerevan's Green department

The report says: officials working at the capital's Green department were busted with negligently allowing, and in some instances purposely aiding, a $23k embezzlement involving a company that was hired to work for the city a few months ago.
A felony case is launched. https://factor.am/281656.html

անճոռնի գորտը

Residents of Gyumri raised the alarm after discovering a construction in a historic-cultural building. Someone decided to build a tasteless 2nd floor on top of the historic building.
The municipality says the construction was unauthorized and suspended it. They summoned the builder for questioning.
The owner of the building claims it's not illegal because the law allows "light construction", and that they need to build the extra floor "to have a roof".
Photos: https://factor.am/281581.html

March 1st, 2008 victims & their lawyers won't attend court trials

March 1st victims: Now that the preliminary stage is over and the court has entered a lengthy beurocratic process, during which the judge chooses to only exercise powers against victims and not Robik and Co-defendants, we see no purpose to attend these sessions that are accompanied with human rights violations.
(Prosecutors will continue their case against Robik & Co)
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026888.html

March 1st memorial statue is being crafted

At the request of Yerevan municipality, sculptor Albert Vardanyan from Gyumri has been working on a bronze monument to commemorate the victims of the 2008 murders.
The initial model is made out of clay which will be further treated before being sent to a Yekaterinburg foundry for metal coating.
The location of the new monument will be decided soon. Its proposed location and design received some criticism.
Video: https://youtu.be/G1mUbWszrts
Video: https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026894.html

Amulsar miner accuses LHK of helping hooligans

Lydian gold miner released footage showing how presumably environmental activists threw rocks at their cars and properties during the night. They claim LHK MPs met the activists earlier that day, which was followed by the attack.
https://news.am/arm/news/600873.html

COVID vs economy

Fewer sales receipts were printed in August YoY, while the trade turnover -12%.
For the January-August period, the trade turnover -10%.
https://www.armtimes.com/hy/article/195200

Largest-ever COVID-compliance audit in Yerevan

Inspectors sent 24 groups across the capital to check businesses for safety compliance. 7% of businesses failed the test and were temporarily shut down. That's down from a typical 60% fail-rate that occurred at the beginning of the pandemic.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026877.html

Ukraine upgrades Armenia's COVID-safety score

Due to the falling infection rates, Ukraine placed Armenia in the "green" zone. Those who visit Ukraine will no longer have to quarantine themselves as long as they spent the past 2 weeks exclusively in Armenia or other similar "green" countries.
Visitors still need a COVID health insurance.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026878.html

364 people were flown to Russia with special flights

They join the list of 8,000 people who managed to travel from Armenia to Russia during the pandemic.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026887.html

the British Science Association

... will be led by Lord Ara Darzi this year. Darzi, a professor at Denham, is the son of Armenian genocide survivors who fled to Iraq. His medical department is specialized in robotic surgeries.
https://www.britishscienceassociation.org/news/professor-ara-darzi-announced-as-incoming-president-of-the-british-science-association
http://www.panarmenian.net/arm/news/284838/

Armenian fortress is revealed after Van lake levels drop

Old Archesh (Turkish "Chelebibag") fortress was built during the Van kingdom. It went underwater in the 1800s due to the rise of lake levels. A recent drought caused the lake to drop by 2 meters and exposed the fortress again.
A Turkish archaeologist wants to renovate it and turn it into a tourist site.
http://www.panarmenian.net/arm/news/284863/

Armenia ratifies Lanzarote Convention

Armenia becomes the 47th state to approve the Lanzarote convention aimed at protecting children from sexual exploitation and abuse. It'll go into effect on June 1, 2021.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026931.html

Forbes writes about Gucci's Armenian model

"Who Is Armine Harutyunyan And How Did She Become A Victim of Body-Shaming In Italy?"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rebeccahughes/2020/09/05/who-is-armine-harutyunyan-and-how-did-she-become-a-victim-of-body-shaming-in-italy/

Middle Eastern Armenians Add Some “Nefes” to Yerevan’s Culture

A documentary about the diasporans' restaurants in Yerevan.
https://youtu.be/7aDJpy_nsfc

Border villages in Tavush

Pashinyan visited Chinari village where he thanked the residents of Tavush province for bringing victories during July battles by "standing firmly behind our soldiers."
12 Chinari houses have been renovated after sustaining Azeri fire in July.
The PM reminded residents about a new law that doubled the monthly aid to $105/mo for working mothers in villages, and introduced a $55/mo aid for unemployed mothers.
Another border city Berd will have a newly renovated Handicraftsman College soon.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026938.html , https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026933.html

Corruption bust / ex-soccer chief Nemets Rubo's company

The report says: between 2013-2019, the director of HFF's Technical Center department colluded with HFF chief HHK MP Nemets Rubo's "Noralusin" company to embezzle funds.
The officials claimed they cooperated with Rubo's company to send kids to its summer camp. No camping services were provided but the company charged $205,000.
A felony case is launched against the directors of HFF Technical Center and Rubo's Noralusin company.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026902.html

Telecom industry news / 5G / 4G+

UCOM ISP doesn't have plans to implement 5G any time soon. They don't see a need or a clear advantage for the consumers, yet.
UCOM criticized the new startup ISP "TEAMS" for poaching 400 of its employees, 90% of whom were highly skilled techies and managers. (it happened after UCOM founder left the company over a dispute and others followed him)
 
Beeline ISP has modernized dozens of towers in Yerevan to boost 4G speeds from ~150 to 450mbps.
http://arka.am/en/news/technology/ucom_is_not_considering_yet_introduction_of_5g_technology_/

New rules to catch fish in Lake Sevan

Nature Ministry is tweaking the restrictions on Sevan fishing, which are meant to protect baby fish and general population count.
Fishing will be allowed in the Small Sevan section, too. That adds an additional 8 locations to the current 17.
The smallest fish can weigh 400g instead of 500g.
The overall limit was raised to 300 tons.
Fishers are given 2 more weeks to obtain a seasonal permit. Dozens of lake rangers will monitor fishers for compliance.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026899.html

PostEuropa stamp competition

Armenia has entered the "Ancient Postal Routes" European competition for the best postal stamp. It presents a stamp depicting Old Gyumri which used to be Armenia's number-one political and cultural hub in the 1⁹th century.
You can vote for your favorite by Wednesday here: https://www.posteurop.org/europa2020
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026885.html

Byurakan International Summer School

The observatory is hosting online classes this week about astronomy and data science. There will be lectures and demonstrations.
The first school session was organized by Viktor Hambardzumyan in 1987. In 2006 the observatory resumed the practices and holds it every two years.
https://www.bao.am//meetings/meetings/SS2020/index.html
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026898.html

New website lets you find the right doctor

Healthcare Ministry launched a new free tool that allows you to browse all the available doctors in your area, read their biographies, read reviews left by other patients, learn the strengths and weaknesses, and schedule an appointment online.
There are also Android and iOS apps. https://www.armtimes.com/hy/article/195207

In case you missed the Sunday report

You can skip the Kardashian part, per popular demand ;)
https://www.reddit.com/armenia/comments/insv2e/sep62020_news_gyumri_day_new_transport_parks/
 
You've read 1948 words.

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2) Currency in Armenian ֏ unless specified otherwise.
3) NSS/SIS/SOC = law enforcement agencies. QP = Civil Contract Party. LHK = Bright Armenia Party. BHK = Prosperous Armenia Party. HHK = Republican Party. ARF = Armenian Revolutionary Federation Party
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2020.09.01 22:01 ar_david_hh Sep/1/2020 news: \\ archaeologists discover canals, scripts, churches in Artsakh's Tigranocerta, dismiss "Caucasian Albania" theories \\ Volunteer Army to have 100,000 men & women \\ mass poisoning from wood alcohol \\ winery explosion \\ anti-corruption busts \\ schools++ \\ new Yerevan bus \\ ...

Tigranocerta - the ancient Armenian city in Artsakh / Kura River and Aghvan church / Urartian water canals

"Fragments of Armenian inscriptions testify that Artsakh's Tigranakert held the breath of Armenianness until its last days," said chief archaeologist Hamlet P.
 
Q: what discoveries have you made this year?
We have special areas of high-interest that we dig every year. We discovered 900 meters of a fence in a particular district, and will soon get the full picture. We haven't found the district's entrance, yet.
 
Another thing we're examining is a square from the early Christian era. There are two churches, tombs, etc.
The third excavation site is an ancient district, the seventh one that we wound.
 
The area is 100 hectares. It's quite large. More exploration will allow us to understand how the city switched from antique to the Christian era. We found Christian objects in Tsits Hill dating back to the 5th century.
 
Q: What historical conclusions can you make based on discoveries?
Besides the old churches, we found Armenian cross-stones and scripts from the 13th century, which prove that Tigranakert remained an Armenian city until its end, under the control of Khachen rulers.
It led us to believe that Khachen ruler Hasan Jalan controlled the area reaching Kur River.
 
The new 5th-century Armenian Christian discoveries prove that this wasn't originally Aghvan territory and that Aghvan church took over sometime in the middle of the 5th century.
The right side of Kur River was entirely Armenian, the church's servants were Armenian, but it served the Aghvan church up until the 19th century.
 
Q: tell us details about the water canal you found.
There are hills on Khachenaget river basin. On top of it, there is an ancient Christian complex, below which there is a 5km water canal. We excavated part of it this year.
We know that Urartians used to build huge water canals in Ararat Valley [far away from this area], but there is no such water network stretching from Ararat Valley to the Caspian Sea.
We're trying to find out if this canal was built before or after Tigranocerta. This is a fantastic discovery.
 
We accidentally found the water canal tunnel while excavating the church. The tunnel had vegetation which we had to remove. We discovered 4 structures. It's too complicated for us; we'll invite experts from Florence University.
 
Q: what do the discovered tonirs (թոնիր) tell us?
We found 20 tonirs from the 12th century, a proof of active economic life. There are 2m deep grain storages, too. We don't know why there were so many in a small area. Maybe some govt project.
 
Q: tell us more about the Christian period of Tigranakert.
We have to differentiate the post and pre Christian periods. The early Christian period contained Armenian scripts; this is the time when Sasanian arquniq united Artsakh and Utiq and gave them to Aghvank.
The Armenian scripts prove that Azerbaijani and some international experts are wrong about this being a non-Armenian area.
The government of the region changed, but the population remained Armenian. There were possibly some Greeks because Tigran brought some Asian Minor population. This is why we see some early-Christian-era Greek scripts, too.
 
Q: How can Artsakh present this to the international scientific community?
We need a museum, tourism areas, an information desks near each artifact. We contacted 15 international bodies but we're careful because of politics [unrecognized republic]. It hasn't stopped them from inviting us for talks, however.
 
More in the article with lots of photos:
https://hetq.am/hy/article/121050

Volunteer Army details / Women to join / Numbers estimated

Last week we leaned about the upcoming creation of a new nationwide Volunteer Army to aid the army in the event of war.
It is estimated that 100,000 civilians could join, in addition to the army reservists who would be separately drafted for war.
 
The MoD says the weapons will only be distributed during wartime after training.
"People won't be freely walking around the city with weapons. Anyone with acceptable health under the age of 70 can apply to join. Not everyone will fight in the front-lines.
Women are welcome; they'll be assigned non-combat tasks in the beginning."
 
"This is not a Swiss or Israeli model. It's tweaked for Armenia. Volunteers get training, receive weapons, then return it once the fights are over."
 
The Volunteers won't be paid during peace or training, but they'll be paid similar to existing contractors and receive the status of a "soldier" during a war. That means approximately $320/mo (that's for lower-ranking contractors).
 
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026353.html
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026359.html
https://youtu.be/ai_UTXkSNT0
https://www.armtimes.com/hy/article/194742
Tags: #VolunteerArmy #Ashkharazor

High number of military academy recruits

The army says they're seeing a high volume of applications to join Monte Melkonyan military academy this year, the highest in 6 years.
A substantial number of women have joined, for the first time in the academy's history. "They passed vigorous exams."
"Military education and profession has restored its attractiveness."
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026352.html
https://www.armtimes.com/hy/article/194723

just 2 left....

There are only 2 military barracks in Armenia and Artsakh that don't have the high-quality food that the govt began supplying since 2019. They'll get it this year.
https://www.armtimes.com/hy/article/194655

Armenian-Greek relations

MoD discussed the resumption of AM-GR military cooperation as soon as COVID-related restrictions are lifted. They spoke about regional issues.
https://hetq.am/hy/article/121117

Arrests in Azerbaijan

Russian authorities detained and extradited an Azeri citizen who will be charged with "being a member of a terrorist organization and cooperating with a foreign state for spying". It isn't clear which country they're referring to.
 
In 2017, Azeri authorities accused several soldiers of spying for Armenia, then killed them under various suspicious circumstances. Armenia denied any connection with the Azeri soldiers and accused the Azeri regime of removing "undesirables" at the time.
https://razm.info/145459
https://razm.info/102678

11 die and more injured after alcohol poisoning

11 residents of Armavir died in a hospital and 6 were injured from alcohol poisoning. Some are in critical condition.
The origin was initially unknown, but they all purchased from the same bootlegger.
 
The cops raided a 50yo man's house and found 200 liters of homemade vodka. The victims positively identified the containers.
A lab will examine the vodka within 3-7 days. It is presumably was made out of technical methyl alcohol (wood spirit), a 30ml of which can be deadly, while 5ml will cause blindness.
 
The investigators plead the public not to use the 30 liters of alcohol that the man managed to sell.
Several residents contacted the police saying that they purchased the vodka but hadn't had a chance to drink it yet.
 
Video: https://youtu.be/R60vHspgeNw
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026368.html
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026371.html
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026373.html
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026393.html
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026431.html
https://www.armtimes.com/hy/article/194746
https://www.armtimes.com/hy/article/194740

Wine container explodes in Proshyan cognac factory

2 workers died and 4 were injured after a 30-ton wine container exploded in Proshyan cognac factory during a welding job by a construction firm. A fire broke out afterward.
The details are being investigated. The deceased are the factory's branch director and the director of the construction company.
https://youtu.be/vQYKawN4i3s?t=595
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026401.html
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026408.html

COVID stats

+97 infected. +634 healed. +2 deaths. 4,373 active. 206,929 tested.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026350.html

Massive rise in property-related anti-corruption investigations

Prosecutors are examining hundreds of instances of officials embezzling state property.
The number of cases filed in the first half of 2020 is 33% greater than in the entire 2019.
The most common crime was rigging sale auctions to guarantee that a specific buyer wins.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026360.html

Prominent HHK MP's son and ex-officials face corruption charges

ex-MP HHK Galust Sahakyan's son Tigran (not the one who released a cringe song with Ashotyan), among with former officials, are accused of property embezzlement and forgery.
 
The report says: // in 2003, the Property Management Minister purposely under-valued a property and sold it to Tigran.
A year later Tigran wanted to get more lands, so his brother Arman (the guy from the cringe song) used his connections in Yerevan municipality to have one of the Yerevan officials to testify in court in favor of his brother to forge the process.
Multiple felony cases are launched. They're told not to leave Armenia. //
https://factor.am/280308.html
https://factor.am/163118.html

September 1st / How many kids?

Today was supposed to be the first day of education, but it's delayed by two weeks due to COVID.
 
How many first-grade students will attend school?
2018: 36,000, up from 2017 partly due to post-revolution immigration from Russia.
2019: 42,000
2020: 36,000 registered so far in govt-run schools.
 
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026416.html
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/945715/
https://www.azatutyun.am/a/30142928.html
https://factor.am/280320.html

Schools with seismic protection

Two schools in Yerevan and Vanadzor have been rebuilt with seismic protections, a new sports center, furniture, and elevator, to house 948 students.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026417.html

the 2017 anti-domestic violence law

If you think the new child protection "Lanzarote" and women's protection "Istanbul" laws are controversial, you should have seen 2017, when HHK was trying to pass the anti-domestic violence law.
At the time, a group of hardline traditionalists interrupted the Parliament session. They believed that the law would destroy families and take away kids from parents.
 
"They still use the same fear-mongering tactics to lobby against Istanbul and Lanzarote contentions," said an NGO activist.
 
The 2017 law gave more powers to the police to apply restrictions on the domestic abuser.
Court cases went from 75 to 48 to 36. "The law is flawed and doesn't allow every assault to be classified as domestic abuse. There are too few shelters for abuse victims."
In 2019, the police issued 796 warnings and applied 260 emergency interventions.
https://www.civilnet.am/news/2020/09/01/Ինչպես-ազդեց-ընտանեկան-բռնության-մասին-օրենքը-հայ-ընտանիքի-վրա/393927

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Artashat's Isakov district has a water network for the first time in 20 years. Residents no longer have to carry buckets. They threw a table to celebrate it.
https://www.armtimes.com/hy/article/194679

100 big + 100 small buses in Yerevan

As we learned on July 16th, Yerevan plans to buy 100 smaller buses before the 100 twelve-meter buses.
The small bus is bigger than a marshutka but smaller than a 12-meter bus. The delivery will begin soon. There is already an auction winner.
 
It has a disability ramp, AC and heater, taller design so you won't bend over, equipment for electronic payment and GPS, a screen that provides info to passengers, automatic bus-stop announcement.
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Bezoar goat couple filmed on the mountains

https://youtu.be/tEL5JznFwik

Rare "bearded vulture" couple filmed in Armenian mountains

Gypeatus barbatus (գառնանգղ) are in the Red Book.
https://youtu.be/_Wa4rmSCJK0

update: Diasporans begin working at govt

The Diaspora Committee had earlier launched iGorts program to attract highly skilled diasporans to visit Armenia and work for the govt temporarily.
24 diasporans from 9 countries have begun their work.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026446.html

More baby-fish is injected into Lake Sevan

The Nature Ministry dumped 220k baby Sevan trout (Սևանի իշխան) into rivers that flow into the lake, as part of a plan to increase the population to improve the water quality.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1026407.html
 
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2020.08.27 19:08 jsilvy Illegal immigrants aren't a real problem.

Undocumented immigrants are not a real problem and is seriously exaggerated as an issue in American media (and especially right-wing media), although most politicians in both parties will at least pay lip service to it as an issue because they will face backlash if they don’t. Most of the time, it is a useful tactic used by politicians and pundits (again, particularly on the right) to fear monger and to avoid talking about other issues that actually impact people’s lives, such as healthcare, climate change, automation, the economy, infrastructure, the criminal justice system, the war on drugs, and foreign policy among others. Most claims on the problems of undocumented immigrants aren’t really backed by data.
*Claim 1: Undocumented immigrants are harmful to the economy because they lower wages and take more welfare than they pay in taxes.*
While it’s true that letting in too many people at a time could potentially overwhelm the economy, the data tends to show that immigration doesn’t really hurt wages, and is in fact overall good for the economy. Here is some data:
https://www.nber.org/papers/w12497.pdf

https://sci-hub.tw/https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0927537114000566

http://davidcard.berkeley.edu/papers/mariel-impact.pdf

https://budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu/issues/2016/1/27/the-effects-of-immigration-on-the-united-states-economy

Now, I do recognize that not all of this data applies just to undocumented immigrants. However, it is worth noting that much of it applies to the same types of low-skill workers that we see from undocumented immigrants.
As for more data particularly on undocumented immigrants:
New American Economy Factsheet: Key Takeaways

Ojeda 09
On Taxes and Social Security:





*Claim 2: Undocumented immigrants cause more crime.*
This claim is not supported data. The only illegal action that undocumented immigrants commit at a higher rate is the act of illegally crossing the border itself. To use that as an argument against undocumented immigration is basically just saying “it’s bad because the government says so”. It’s circular logic, because the only reason it’s illegal is because people in government think it’s bad, which brings us back to asking why.
Anyway, here’s some more data:
FEE: Nowrasteh 15


Consensus
Light & Miller 18 (non-paywall)

https://www.cato.org/blog/white-houses-misleading-error-ridden-narrative-immigrants-crime
All of this is especially interesting when you consider that undocumented immigrants, by the numbers, are usually more likely to be impoverished young men, which is the demographic that would usually commit the most crimes. This makes sense when you consider why they would go through the trouble of making it to a country like the US full of economic opportunities only to commit crime, something they could do just as easily back home in Mexico where the cartels run amuck. It would be like working towards a finance degree only to decide once you have it that you’re gonna just get money by holding people in alleyways at gunpoint. It does not hold up logically, and therefore it makes sense that the data doesn’t support it.
*Claim 3: Undocumented immigration harms social cohesion.*
I don’t see why that would be the case more so than any other immigrants. Either way, they come to this country to work, and generally have to learn to follow the local laws and customs and learn at least some English to survive. Even if the first generation doesn’t do that, the second does, and the third will be perfectly assimilated more or less. Of course they may still have some cultural affinity for Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, or whichever country they came from, but I don’t see why that really matters. Irish, Jewish, Italian, Polish, Armenian, and other groups descended from immigrants (as we all are except for the Amerindians) often have some sort of affinity for the mother country and its culture, but that doesn’t really undermine their loyalty to the US. The only real reason I could see someone opposing this on the grounds of social cohesion is if they think Latinos are somehow inherently different from everyone else, which I don’t think is an idea that anyone outside of the alt-right would take seriously on a conscious level.
But anyway, I do have more data to back up the fact that the diversity brought by immigrants does not cause harm:
https://sci-hub.tw/https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/full/10.1146/annurev-soc-071913-043309#article-denial

https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/laibson/files/measuring_trust.pdf

https://psycnet.apa.org/buy/2018-13651-001

http://www.fisherwilliamson.com/downloads/MPSA040508.FINAL2.pdf

https://sci-hub.tw/https://academic.oup.com/sf/article-abstract/93/3/1211/2332107?redirectedFrom=fulltext

*Claim 4: But we can’t just have open borders.*
I agree. I think we need to secure our borders. But the problem isn’t immigrants. It’s drug, sex, and human traffickers. We need to do whatever we can to combat the cartels. Personally, I don’t know a ton about trafficking. I think maintaining checkpoints along the borders and thoroughly searching vehicles is a place to start. Also, drug legalization and rehabilitation clinics/safe injection sites could go a long way towards harming the business of the drug cartels. I personally don’t claim to be an expert however, so there are probably solutions to securing the border from cartels that I haven’t considered.
I also do think we should deport undocumented immigrants who commit crimes, but if they aren’t causing any problems, we should just leave them alone.
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2020.08.25 23:51 jsilvy CMV: Undocumented Immigration is not a real problem.

Undocumented immigration is not a real problem and is seriously exaggerated as an issue in American media (and especially right-wing media). It is a useful tactic used by politicians and pundits (again, particularly on the right) to fear monger and to avoid talking about other issues that actually impact people’s lives, such as healthcare, climate change, automation, economics, infrastructure, the criminal justice system, the war on drugs, and foreign policy among others. Most claims on the problems of undocumented immigrants aren’t really backed by data.
EDIT: To clarify, I do think there are problems with Undocumented Immigration as a broader system. I think it is an issue that undocumented immigrants face horrible treatment. My view is more that the undocumented immigrants themselves are not problems.
*Claim 1: Undocumented immigrants are harmful to the economy because they lower wages and take more welfare than they pay in taxes.*
While it’s true that letting in too many people at a time could potentially overwhelm the economy, the data tends to show that immigration doesn’t really hurt wages, and is in fact overall good for the economy. Here is some data:
https://www.nber.org/papers/w12497.pdf

https://sci-hub.tw/https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0927537114000566

http://davidcard.berkeley.edu/papers/mariel-impact.pdf

https://budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu/issues/2016/1/27/the-effects-of-immigration-on-the-united-states-economy

Now, I do recognize that not all of this data applies just to undocumented immigrants. However, it is worth noting that much of it applies to the same types of low-skill workers that we see from undocumented immigrants.
As for more data particularly on undocumented immigrants:
New American Economy Factsheet: Key Takeaways

Ojeda 09
On Taxes and Social Security:





*Claim 2: Undocumented immigrants cause more crime.*
This claim is not supported data. The only illegal action that undocumented immigrants commit at a higher rate is the act of illegally crossing the border itself. To use that as an argument against undocumented immigration is basically just saying “it’s bad because the government says so”. It’s circular logic, because the only reason it’s illegal is because people in government think it’s bad, which brings us back to asking why.
Anyway, here’s some more data:
FEE: Nowrasteh 15


Consensus
Light & Miller 18 (non-paywall)

https://www.cato.org/blog/white-houses-misleading-error-ridden-narrative-immigrants-crime
All of this is especially interesting when you consider that undocumented immigrants, by the numbers, are usually more likely to be impoverished young men, which is the demographic that would usually commit the most crimes. This makes sense when you consider why they would go through the trouble of making it to a country like the US full of economic opportunities only to commit crime, something they could do just as easily back home in Mexico where the cartels run amuck. It would be like working towards a finance degree only to decide once you have it that you’re gonna just get money by holding people in alleyways at gunpoint. It does not hold up logically, and therefore it makes sense that the data doesn’t support it.
*Claim 3: Undocumented immigration harms social cohesion.*
I don’t see why that would be the case more so than any other immigrants. Either way, they come to this country to work, and generally have to learn to follow the local laws and customs and learn at least some English to survive. Even if the first generation doesn’t do that, the second does, and the third will be perfectly assimilated more or less. Of course they may still have some cultural affinity for Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, or whichever country they came from, but I don’t see why that really matters. Irish, Jewish, Italian, Polish, Armenian, and other groups descended from immigrants (as we all are except for the Amerindians) often have some sort of affinity for the mother country and its culture, but that doesn’t really undermine their loyalty to the US. The only real reason I could see someone opposing this on the grounds of social cohesion is if they think Latinos are somehow inherently different from everyone else, which I don’t think is an idea that anyone outside of the alt-right would take seriously on a conscious level.
But anyway, I do have more data to back up the fact that the diversity brought by immigrants does not cause harm:
https://sci-hub.tw/https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/full/10.1146/annurev-soc-071913-043309#article-denial

https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/laibson/files/measuring_trust.pdf

https://psycnet.apa.org/buy/2018-13651-001

http://www.fisherwilliamson.com/downloads/MPSA040508.FINAL2.pdf

https://sci-hub.tw/https://academic.oup.com/sf/article-abstract/93/3/1211/2332107?redirectedFrom=fulltext

*Claim 4: But we can’t just have open borders.*
I agree. I think we need to secure our borders. But the problem isn’t immigrants. It’s drug, sex, and human traffickers. We need to do whatever we can to combat the cartels. Personally, I don’t know a ton about trafficking. I think maintaining checkpoints along the borders and thoroughly searching vehicles is a place to start. Also, drug legalization and rehabilitation clinics/safe injection sites could go a long way towards harming the business of the drug cartels. I personally don’t claim to be an expert however, so there are probably solutions to securing the border from cartels that I haven’t considered.
I also do think we should deport undocumented immigrants who commit crimes.
Everything in mind, I recognize that it is possible that there are some arguments I haven’t considered. I’m arguing a negative claim, so I recognize that there are probably infinite points I would have to debunk in order to prove my current opinion correct.
Anyway, with that, I invite reddit to challenge my view so that I may reconsider it.
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2020.08.19 02:17 ArthurDrakoni Review: The Years of Rice and Salt by Kim Stanley Robinson

This review was first published on my blog, but I am reprinting it here per the subreddit rules.
2019 was a year where I got to experience a lot of alternate history books in audio form for the first time. It was also, like 2018 before it, a year where I finally got around to listening to several alternate history I'd been meaning to get around to. Case in point, the book we'll be reviewing today. We're taking a look at the classic alternate history novel The Years of Rice and Salt by Kim Stanley Robinson .
The Years of Rice and Salt takes places in a world where the Black Death killed ninety-nine percent of Europe's population. The story follows six or seven individuals, though three in particular, as they are reincarnated over the ages. Robinson makes it easy by having their names start with the same letter. The main characters we follow having names starting in K, B, and I. Secondary characters have names with Z, P, and S. The novel spans hundreds of years of history, and spans numerous nations, giving it a truly global feel to it.
The novel is divided into ten segments of varying lengths, and I will discuss each of them individually. For now, I will give some overall thoughts. I'd been putting off listening to this one, but I'm glad I finally got around to it. I absolutely loved this book. I loved its vast global scope, and how it features nations and cultures you don't often see in alternate history. I also loved the use of reincarnation as a plot device. It was certainly an interesting twist I haven't really seen in too many other alternate history novels. The story uses the Islamic Hegira Calendar for dates. The Islamic year 1 being when Mohammad felid Mecca for Medina in 622 AD. However, I've rendered the dates in the Gregorian Calendar for convenience sake. There's a ton of historical and cultural references throughout the novel. You don't necessarily have to catch them to enjoy the novel, but it adds to the experience. Thankfully, the Kim Stanley Robinson website has this handy reading guide that catalogs and explains them all.
Well, enough of all that, lets dive in.
Our first segment is titled "Awake into Emptiness." It takes place from 1381-1424. It follows a Mongol warrior named Bold who is serving in the army of Timur. Timur has sent Bold to scout ahead into the Hungarian Basin. Bold find a land almost totally devoid of humans. Bold travels through the depopulated Balkans until he is captured and sold into slavery by Arab slavers. During his time aboard a slave ship he meets an African slave named Kyu. As the ship makes its way to China, Kyu and Bold discover that their lives are destined to be intertwined.
This segment sets things up for the rest of the novel. The descriptions of the depopulated Europe were evocative and haunting. There are multiple mentions of cathedrals being only partially built because everyone died in the middle of construction. Medieval cathedrals took decades, if not centuries, to be fully constructed. Often, those who began work on the cathedrals would do so knowing that they would not live to see them completed.
There's a particularly sad scene where Bold encounters the sole European in all of his travels. The man can't speak any of the languages Bold know, but he gets his point across with gestures. He was just a fisherman, and was out fishing when the plague hit. He came back to find everyone, including his wife and children, dead. Now he's all alone, and due to the language barrier, Bold isn't much company. They share food and camp together, but the very next day the man is gone. His footsteps lead to the riverbank, which strongly suggests he might have committed suicide out of despair. What would it be like, I wonder, to be like the lone European? What thoughts would go through one’s head as the sole survive of a once prosperous village? To know that you might be alone forever? Chilling stuff indeed.
Bold and Kyu eventually get sold to the admiral Zhang He. He was the commander of the Ming Dynasty's fleet of treasure ships. They were massive ships that traveled everywhere from the South China Sea, to India, and even East Africa. The goal was to proclaim China's power and influence to the world, and to collect tribute. Zhang He is a staple in alternate histories about China colonizing the New World. Ironically, that doesn't happen in this book til after Zhang He. We'll talk more about that in a bit. We also get a frighteningly detailed explain of how eunuchs, of which Zhang He was one, are made.
Another significant aspect of "Awake into Emptiness" is how it sets up the character meeting in the Bardo at the end of each segment. The Bardo is an afterlife of sorts in Tibetan Buddhism. It is where souls go as they wait to be judged and then reborn. I should probably go over the difference between reincarnation in Hinduism and Buddhism. Hindu reincarnation is like water being passed from one cup to another; your outside changes, but the essence of who you are stays the same. Buddhist reincarnation is more like one candle passing its flame to another; there is a deep connection between you and your reincarnations, but they are ultimately different people. Tibetan Buddhism differs in that it is a bit more like the Hindu view of reincarnation.
The character we meet in The Years of Rice and Salt were part of a Jati in Tibet that got killed in an avalanche. A Jati is type of village or community; sometimes it can also mean clan or group of that nature. Throughout the book the Jati constantly find each other, often without meaning too, across their reincarnations. East Asian cultures, and other Asian cultures to an extent, place emphasis on finding your place within the web of other's lives. The part of this section that muse about the nature of reincarnation and Buddhism have an almost poetic quality to them. There's also some parts that end with "but if you want to know what happens next, read the next part." This is a nod to the classic Chinese novel Journey to the West.
The second segment is titled "The Haj in the Heart." The bulk is set in the 1560. It begins in India with two sisters named Kokila and Bihari. Life is mostly good, and they get married. Then Bihari dies in childbirth, and Kokila poisons their husbands, for which she is executed. Kokila is then reincarnated as a tiger named Kya, who is also killed, but not before she saves a wandering Sufi mystic named Bistami. While on a Hadj to Mecca, Bistami hears of a caravan in North Africa heading to the depopulated land of Al-Andalus. The caravan is led by the charismatic sultan Mawji Darya, and his beautiful wife Katima. Bistami finds himself drawn to Katima, almost as though he knows her from somewhere.
This is the only time, barring the last segment, our characters get reincarnated multiple times in one segment. Bistami at one point finds himself in the court of Emperor Akbar. He was a real ruler of the Mughal Empire. It was an off-shoot of the Mongol Empire established by Central Asian Mongols who settled in Northern India. Akbar was a Muslim, but promoted religious tolerance and understanding. He often held meetings with representatives of the different religions within his empire. Unfortunately, subsequent Mughal rulers didn't share his open-mindedness.
I previously mentioned the poetic nature of this book, and it's true in this segment as well. There is a particularly great scene where Bistami visits the tomb of a great Sufi mystic. He undergoes a religious experience and has visions, including of his past lives. The poetic nature, combined with the musings on the nature of reality, reminds me of The Man in the High Castle, another of my favorite alternate history novels. I should probably talk about Sufism. Sufism is a type of Islamic mysticism. They tend to be a bit more peaceful and less politically inclined than Sunni and Shia Islam. Most Sunnis and Shias, the two main branches of Islam, do not like Sufis very much, and don't consider them real Muslims. If you've ever heard of the Whirling Dervishes, those are Sufis. The Medieval Iranian poet Rumi is another famous Sufi.
It does make sense that the Beber, or Amazigh, as they call themselves, were first to resettle Europe. Towards the end of its history Al-Andalus was ruled by several BebeAmazigh dynasties such as the Almoravids and Almohads. I also liked that the alternate Black Death hit all of Europe, not just the Christian bits. Al-Andalus, and the Muslim settlements in the Balkans, were just as depopulated as the rest of Europe. It made it feel a bit more realistic. Granted, having ninety-nine percent of Europe be whipped out wasn't that realistic, but it is a thing I'm willing to accept for the premise of the novel. Amusingly, even the characters discuss how odd it is that Europe was totally whipped out.
Katima and her caravan are shown to be more open-minded and liberal than most Muslims. This is partially because they follow Sufism, but also because they are Berber. Traditionally, most Berber women have not worn the hijab, and woman have play major roles in Berber life. The caravan eventually moves further north and founds a settlement at the former site of Bayonne, France. They name their settlement Baraka. Katima's husband dies, but there's no precedent for women ruling on their own in Islam. In fact, the Hadith even forbids it.
Thus, Bistami and Katima declare that those Hadith's don't matter and forge their own. Granted, there's some precedence to this. Muslims believe that the Hadith is less authoritative than the Koran, but still important. Several Muslim women, in places such as West Africa and America, choose to ignore the Hadith to justify not wearing the hijab. The closest the Koran comes is saying that women must cover their breasts. Throughout the book there is a theme of trying to reconcile Islam with women's rights, and secular liberalism in general. The Sufis, and those like them, are trying to establish a light in the darkness, but these lights can easily be snuffed out. Case in point, more conservative Muslims from Al-Andalus come to overthrow Katima, forcing everyone to flee further north to Nantes. They name this new settlement Nsara.
Interestingly, when everyone arrives in the Bardo they perceive it as being similar to the Islamic afterlife. Does the Bardo appear different to everyone? They do seem to realize that it isn't the Islamic afterlife, and do start to remember their past lives before getting reincarnated. We'll talk more about all that in just a minute.
The third segment is titled "Ocean Continents." It takes place in the 1620s. Japan has been a thorn in China's side for centuries. The emperor orders a huge fleet of ships to conquer the island nation. However, a few ships get blown across the Pacific and discover two previously unknown continents. The section follows the crew as they explore this brave new world.
This is the part where China finally discovers the Americas. Overall, I did enjoy this segment, but the novel does show its age in places. When the Chinese first arrive, they meet the Miwok people of Northern California. The Miwok are overall portrayed well, even if it occasionally dips into "paint with all the colors of the wind" territory. The narration mentions how the natives barely use the land, and how everything is pristine. We now know that Native Americans played a big role in cultivating land, and played a major role in shaping North America's ecosystem. They just did so in a way that wasn't always recognizable to the Europeans. In fairness a lot of this scholarship has only come on in the last decade or so. Robinson wouldn't have had access to it.
The bigger issue is when the Chinese arrive in the Aztec Empire. At first, it looked like we might get a nuanced look at the Aztecs. They performed human sacrifice, but they did so because they believed it was necessary to thank the gods for giving them the world. Those chosen as sacrifices lives like kings in the year leading up to the sacrifice. They were also one of the few societies to give mandatory education for both men and women. I was hoping we'd see all this, but Robinson fell onto the lazy stereotype of the Aztecs as bloodthirsty barbarians. It got even worse when one of the Chinese fired a gun, and the Aztecs ran around like chickens with their heads chopped off. There is a reference to something this is claimed to have happened when Pizarro conquered the Inca. The problem being that there is no historical evidence that the Inca trampled each other to death when Pizarro fired his gun. It is likely a fabrication by post-conquest chroniclers.
Anyway, when we get to the Bardo we see that it is falling under the sway of the Chinese celestial bureaucracy. Does that mean Chinese Mythology is real too? Overall, not a terrible segment, but could have been better.
The fourth segment is titled "The Alchemist." It takes place in the Khanate of Samarkand in the 1640s. It follows three alchemists named Bahram, Khalid, and Iwang. The start off performing experiments to turn lead into gold. However, they soon start making discoveries that will overturn all pervious knowledge. The age of alchemy is over, and the age of science has begun.
I've always loved the history of science, so this segment was pretty fun for me. The characters make discoveries in all sorts of fields, but the Khan is only interested in military applications. There's a particularly amusing scene where Khalid complains about Sufis being a inch of hippies with their heads in the clouds. He's blissfully unaware that he was a Sufi in a past life. Another scene mentions that Armenia is a Muslim nation. That's particularly odd given that pervious segments mentioned them, along with Georgia and Ethiopia, as one of the few Christian nations that avoid the plague. There's also mention of small communities of Christians in Egypt and the Maghreb. The characters do speculate that the Armenians might be faking it to get better trade deals, but it is still odd. Samarkand in our world had some very famous universities, with some very impressive mosaics. All in all, another great segment.
The fifth segment is called "The Warp and the Weft." It takes place in North America and follows a ronin named Busho, but his friends know him as Fromwest. He is severing as a guest to the Haudenosaunee people, and tells of how his homeland was invaded by China. Busho must convince the Haudenosaunee, and the scattered tribes to North America, to unite and modernize so they can resist colonization from the Chinese and Muslims.
Overall, I thought that Robinson did a much better with his depiction of the Native Americans here. The Haudenosaunee people are more commonly known as the Iroquois. They are nation originally made of the five tribes: the Seneca, Mohawk, Onondaga, Cayuga, and Oneida. In 1722 they welcomed the Tuscarora tribe to the nation. Interestingly, this segment mentions that the Haudenosaunee have expanded to nine tribes. Just who are these additional tribes? The Native Americans were exposed more gradually to Old World diseases than in our world. They've had more time to recover their population. This does give them more of fighting chance than the Native Americans did in our world. Still I can't help but feel that the fate is the Haudenosaunee is just a tad optimistic. Granted, they've got Busho to help them.
Perhaps it is optimistic, but I'm willing to take it. I've always wished alternate history featured the Native Americans more. I've also been fascinated at the idea of Native Americans successfully resisting colonialism. From what we hear, the Chinese invasion of Japan was incredibly harsh. There was no divine wind to save the Japanese this time. Busho wonders if the gods were made because of the Muslim missionaries in Nagasaki. It's a sly joke, because around the same time in our world, Christian missionaries were in Nagasaki. In fact, Nagasaki and Hiroshima were the two biggest Christian settlements in Japan. I wonder if the souls that would have been those missionaries got reincarnated as Muslims?
The Bardo segment is also interesting. The Jati try to resist drinking the elixir of forgetfulness to try to retain the memories in their next lives, and find each other.
The sixth segment is titled "Widow Kang." It takes place in South China in the 18th century. The widow Kang Tongbi has been plagued by strange dreams and strange happenings. She speaks in strange foreign languages, and finds herself draw to the Buddhist monk Bao Ssu and the Muslim scholar Ibrahim ibn Hasam al-Lanzhou. It's almost as though she knows them from somewhere before.
The parallelism was very strong in this story. At times it almost felt more like straight-up historical fiction rather than alternate history. The Machu overthrew the Ming Dynasty, thus establishing the Qing Dynasty, just as in our world. There's also a hysteria over supposed queue cutting, just as in our world. Queues are long braided ponytails the Manchu pushed upon the Han Chinese. The Han weren't required to adopt Manchu clothing and hairstyles, but the Manchu put indirect pressure on them to do so. There were also numerous instances of anti-Muslim persecution carried out during the Qing Dynasty. Yeah, if the goal of the novel was to speculate about a world without Europe, this was not one of its better moments.
Now, I must be fair here. Robinson utilizes a more leftist view of history that emphasizes intangible forces of history over individual choice. Additionally, there the wrinkle of people being reincarnated. Reincarnation might account for why this world had a Renaissance so similar to our world. Presumably, the Europeans got reincarnated too. Perhaps the Manchu were destined to overthrow the Ming Dynasty. It's interesting to speculate, but let's get back to the story.
Kang eventually marries Ibrahim after he helps her with some hypnosis exercises. They work together on try to find a way to reconcile Islam with Buddhism, and Chinese culture in general. There one scene where Kang disparages Islam for the way Muslim women are treated. Ibrahim point that Chinese women don't have it much better. Kang concedes that women have it pretty bad all the world over. Kang also takes to collecting poems and mantras. Her favorite? It has to do with rice and salt. There's also an amusing scene where, when discussing the possibility of past lives, Kang insists that she's always been Chinese. By this point, we know she's also been African, Berber, Muslim, Indian, Iroquois, and even a tiger.
It seems that Ibrahim, a few other Muslims, believe in reincarnation. In our world, there are some Muslims who believe this, but they are fringe groups, and don't represent mainstream Islamic thought. Granted, with the changes to history, maybe their beliefs became mainstream. I just loved Kang and Ibrahim's constant back-and-forth. They argue, but they also clearly care about each other. We also hear that many Sufi settlements have gotten crushed by Wahhabis. They're a brand of ultra-conservative Islam; Saudi Arabia is run by them. Sadly, this isn't too dissimilar to what happened in our world. Attempts to reform Islam pretty much always ended badly.
Our seventh segment is titled "The Great Age of Progress." It takes place from 1829-1864. The Ottoman Empire has long thought of itself as invincible. That all changes when they get into a war with the League of Travancore; an alliance of states in India. Travancore is a land of mechanical wonders and scientific advancement. The segment follows an Ottoman doctor named Ismail as he is taken to Travancore to experience these wonders firsthand.
Well, this certainly made up for the parallelism of the last segment. I love seeing industrial revolution alternate histories in non-Western nations. I also like that Travancore is an alliance of Indian states rather than a single nation. India is just as ethnically and culturally diverse as Europe, after all. The scene where Travancore invades Konstantiniyye is an ironic echo of the Ottoman's sack of Constantinople in 1453 AD. Of course, this time the Ottomans are in the role of the Byzantines. Wouldn't it be ironic if they were the Byzantines reincarnated? We also see that the Haudenosaunee League is an ally of Travancore, and are doing quite well for themselves. Several Buddhist monasteries have also become centers of science and learning. Buddhism originated in India, but faded away due to the actions of Brahmins, that is, Hindu priests. They knew they had to try to discredit Buddhism, or they'd be standing in the unemployment line. It is fitting that Buddhism has returned to the place of its birth here.
We also find out that some European survived in the Orkney, Shetland, and Faroe Islands. A few also managed to survive in England. Unfortunately, the Ottomans prized these surviving English for their exotic beauty. The Ottomans made a point of keeping the English members of their harams ethnically pure. Eventually, this resulted in some pretty nasty inbreeding. Yeah, those poor English would have been better off if the plague had taken their ancestors.
We skip ahead a bit where Ismail is serving as Tranvancore's ambassador to Yingzhou. It's China's colony on the west coast of North America. We discover that the Japanese people and culture have survived in spite of China's efforts to whip them out. There's even a strong underground resistance movement brewing in Yingzhou. There's mention of flood occurring in California, and interestingly enough, there was indeed a flood in California around the time this segment is set.
The eight segment is titled "War of the Asuras." It is set in the 1950s. Tension between China and Dar-Al-Islam have been brewing for years. Now they've finally boiled over into an all-out war. In time, this war will be known as the Long War. The segment follows three Chinese solders named Bai, Kuo, and Iwa.
This segment was maybe not my favorite, but all the same, not terrible. The Long War can best be described as World War I leading directly into World War II with no break in-between. The Long War lasted sixty-seven years in total. The war is so intense that our character beginning to lose their grasp on reality. Also, apparently the Muslims blew-up the top of Mount Everest so that K2, a mountain in Afghanistan, would be the tallest mountain in the world. There was no real point to this, and it probably didn't affect Chinese moral very much. It probably also wasted time and resources for the Muslims, and seemed more petty than anything. On a brighter note, Japan has used the chaos of the war to regain their independence.
The ninth segment is titled "Nsara." It takes place from 1999-2002. Budur Radwan is a young woman living in the United Alpine Emirates. She longs to be free and independent like her aunt Idelba, who works as a physicist in Nsara. Budur decides to seek on a train bound for the great Sufi city. She finds Nsara to be a land of wonders, and is drawn to the study of history and archeology by one of the city's madrasahs. Life is good, but the effects of the Long War still linger. How long can this temporary peace truly last?
This segment gets fairly metafictional as Budur and her classmates discuss the nature of history. They even speculate on how things might have gone had history turned out differently. One of the class's first projects is considering women's role in history, particularly as it relates to Islam. Their professor Kirana Fawwaz is convinced that it is possible to reconcile Islam with feminism if you throw out the Hadith. She even claims Mohammad was a feminist. Yeah...she must be using a different translation of the Koran, because everything I've read of the Koran paints a rather unflattering picture of the prophet. Feminist is...not a word I'd use to describe him. For example, he once ordered a village of Jews to be put to death for refusing to convert to Islam. Then there's the whole marrying an underage girl and consummating the marriage with her thing. There's a little old lady in the class who says that religion has brought nothing but suffering to people, especially women, and should be done away with. Well, I guess I know what happened to the soul that would have become me.
As someone with a history degree, I can attest that many of the conversations Budur and her classmates have are quite accurate. There would certainly be even more archeological sites in Europe than there already ate in our world. We even get to briefly see some surviving Native Europeans in the Orkney, Shetland and Faroe Islands. They're under the watchful eye of the Haudenosaunee. So we've got Native Americans overseeing what is, essentially, a European reservation. Oh how the tables have turned. One of Budur's friends is named Tristan, and he makes music based on that of Medieval Europe. Strange that more isn't made of his status as one of the only ethnic Europeans we meet. Unless his name isn't really Tristan, and he's the Years of Rice and Salt version of a weeaboo, but with European culture rather than Japanese.
I probably should have mentioned before that the Muslims renamed Europe as Firanja. Well, the Middle Eastern and North African ones did. The Central Asian one's call it Firanjistan. Most of Western Firanja speaks a language that, while similar to Arabic and Berber, is unique to Firanja. Though Skandistan speaks a separate language related to the Turkic languages of Central Asia. Firanja was placed under heavy reparations following the Long War. The terms also forced them to allow Buddhist monasteries to be established in their cities. I guess it makes a sort of sense that Muslim madrasahs and Buddhist monasteries became centers of learning. In our world, many universities, such as Oxford and Cambridge, started off as places to train/educate Christian clergy.
Budur travels to a science conference in Iran to help deliver a message to her aunt's colleges. Specifically, about the potential to split an atom, and create new bombs. This is presented as something that the world must not know of, but I'm not sure about that. Mutually Assured Destruction, and thus deterrence, could have saved quite a few lives during the Long War. From what we hear, it got so bad that women and children got drafted. On the other hand, Dar-Al-Islam does seem just crazy enough to push the button. Don't forget what they did to Mount Everest. On a happier note, we do see that the Buddhist monasteries are making bricks to rebuild the summit of Mount Everest.
Budur also attends an archeology conference. One of the presentations is of a village in Tibet that got caught in an avalanche. It is the very village the sent the Jati on their journey across the ages. I also liked how the Middle East is called the Middle West, as a nod to how Sinocentric this world is. There's mention of scientists wanting to create a new calendar, with the date of their meeting being year one. Something similar happened in our world, but the Apollo 11 mission was used as the year one.
Post-war Firanja bares more than a passing resemblance to Germany during the Weimar Republic. It is mentioned that the Sultanate of Rum has experienced particularly bad hyperinflation. As the segment progresses, there's increasing political turmoil, and many radicals begin to blame mi routines such as Christians, Jews, and Armenians for Firanja losing the Long War. There's mention here, and in several other segments of a people called Zotts. Apparently, that's the Arabic word for Gypsies/Romani. With all the political chaos brewing, it's a good thing the Haudenosaunee keep a military presence in Firanja.
It would seem the Sufis' efforts weren't in vain after all. Nsara appears to be a liberal modern city. And yet it is also mentioned that several parts of Firanja, such as the United Alpine Emirates and Skandistan, are rather conservative. It goes back to the theme of trying to reconcile Islam with liberalism, pluralism, and multiculturalism. Quite forward thinking for a book published in 2002. Personally, I'm not sure it's really possible. Of course, I'm not sure any religion can truly be reformed. Better to discard them and find our truths and meanings in something more solid and rational.
Our final segment is titled "First Years." It takes place from 2030-2088. The segment follows a Chinese man named Bao Xinhua throughout his life. He participates in a democratic-ish/socialist-ish movement lead by the Chinese-Japanese philosopher Zhu Isao. We then follow him as he is assigned to a diplomatic post in Burma, gets married, and then moves to Yingzhou and becomes a history teacher.
I know that doesn't sound very exciting, but I promise this is a good segment. It appears that, despite winning the Long War, China wasn't much better off than Firanja. Of course, it was less than China won and more that Dar-Al-Islam lost. It might seem a little odd that the book doesn't really give as much attention to the social revolution China experienced, but it makes a sort of sense. The wheel symbol is very important in Buddhism and religions like it. It symbolizes reincarnation, rebirth, and the cycle of ages. As you get closer to the center, the arc of the wheel gets smaller. So there's that, or perhaps Kim Stanley Robinson felt that, much like this review, the book had gone on for long enough and it was time to wrap things up. The revolution has aspects of socialist movements, but the philosophy behind it is very much a product of the world of The Years of Rice and Salt.
The real winners of the Long War seem to be the Travancore and Haudenosaunee leagues. Though there were times where the characters referenced Yingzhou as though it comprised all of North America. From what I've gathered, Yingzhou seems to refer to China's colonies in America, and North America as a whole. Sort of like how America can mean either the Untied States, or the Americas as a whole. Similarly, Inka seems to be South America as a whole, and the Inka Empire. Anyway, there certainly does appear to be a growing sense of multiculturalism, pluralism, and international cooperation. All things that are founding principles of Travancore and the Haudenosaunee. In general, though not completely without flaws, the world does seem to have become a more peaceful place. There's also reference to a United Nations analogue called the League of All Nations.
Based on what we've seen both here and in the previous segment, it seems that this world is less technologically advanced than ours. Airships are the primary civilian aircraft, and there doesn't seem to be much mention of any nation having a space program. There's also not really any mention of television, movies, or computers. Granted, maybe the characters we follow don't watch much TV, or go to the movies very often. Still, the lack of computers and the Internet is pretty notable. It also a shame that, throughout the book, we never really get to see what sub-Saharan Africa is like. How did they evolve in a world without European colonialism?
It's mentioned that places, such as much of Firanja and Inka, still suffer from widespread poverty, but on the flip side, much of the world has improved quality of life. In the last segments we did see some Inka in Firanja, so it does seem that they and their culture have survived. There's certainly a sense of cautious optimism for the future throughout the world. Bao himself finds a sense of community and belonging in Yingzhou. His housing complex is much like a modern-day village. He and his fellow Jati members might not have achieved Nirvana, but they did pretty well for themselves. It kind of reminds me of the ending of Candide. Despite all of the hardships, the Jati made it out alive, and are happily tending to their garden, literally and metaphorically. Well, everyone but the K character. Of course, Bao does find himself with a new student named Kali towards the end of the book. Perhaps she'll come around in time.
I'd say, overall, the world of The Years of Rice and Salt isn't necessarily better or worse than ours, but it is very different. And so, at least for now, the journey of the Jati is at an end. Well, I think at this point it is pretty obvious that I loved this book. I also loved the audiobook adaptation narrated by Bronson Pinchot.
This was truly epic alternate history. It spanned, continents, cultures, centuries, and lifetimes. It shinned a light on cultures and peoples you don't often see in alternate history. It was an amazing journey, and I'm glad I was along for the ride. I'm glad I finally got around to listening to this book. I can't recommend this book enough. Check it out today, you'll be glad that you did.
Link to the original review on my blog, though you won’t find anything you didn’t find here: http://drakoniandgriffalco.blogspot.com/2020/01/book-review-years-of-rice-and-salt-by.html?m=1
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2020.08.10 21:20 ar_david_hh Aug/10/2020 news: / Bolola: Anatolia vs Armenian Highlands / Archaeology: new Qarahunj & Dragon-stones found / Huge illegal fishing campaign busted / Sugar monopoly penalized / Yerevan's new elevators / COVID: phone metadata monitoring law / Banking in Armenia / Treaty of Sevres & Western Armenia

Sunday news, in case you missed it:

https://www.reddit.com/armenia/comments/i6p7mg/aug92020_news_secret_license_karabakh_telecom/?

Ex-oligarch's sugar monopoly penalized for predatory practices

Lfik Samo's Alex Holding will pay a $53K fine for abusing the dominant market share, says the Competition Committee.
Report: between 2018-2020, the company intentionally lowered its sugar prices to the point that they began losing money, to push competitors out of business, and to preserve dominant market share. Other instances of abuse of power were recorded.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1024535.html

COVID / Armenian test kits / Schools to reopen

No COVID stats on Mondays because they refresh facilities over the weekend.
 
Molecular Institute has so far produced 47,000 test kits (2k/day) after receiving a govt subsidy to import components from China. The kits are 98% accurate.
 
Schools will resume on September 15th. No decision yet about universities.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1024515.html , https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1024591.html

The law about monitoring COVID suspects' phone/location

On March 31st the govt passed a law to automatically scan COVID infected persons' location/phone metadata, to identify potential carriers who socialized with the infected.
 
57K residents were reached out by authorities, after scanning 6K phone calls (not the content of the call but the metadata).
1.5K people were placed in the high-risk group. 174 were confirmed with COVID.
https://factor.am/275291.html

NSS busts a large-scale illegal fishing campaign / Lake Sevan

The report says: // 127 tons of fish were illegally caught from Lake Sevan. 20 raids reveal multiple suspects.
 
In 2019-2020 suspects caught 12 tons of whitefish (sig) and used a govt-funded refrigeration facility for storage. Another 47 tons were stolen by unknown pouches and stored in the same facility.
 
NSS raided Zvartnots airport and Bagratashen border checkpoint and confiscated tons of illegal fish before they were exported. The fish were intentionally incorrectly labeled as Abumbria [Mackerel] canned fish. \\
 
They're looking for more suspects. Video: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=213983393390632 , https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1024531.html

Cholaqar municipality officials are busted...

... with allegedly embezzling a kindergarten land and leasing it to a telecom provider in 2014, as well as registering fake employees to steal their salaries.
https://factor.am/275400.html

Anti-corruption in Lori province

33 felony corruption cases in 1H20. The total number of felonies sent to court rose +108%.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1024514.html

Amulsar

A small group of environmental activists held a protest in front of Parliament building. They don't want Amulsar mining to proceed. The police issued a "COVID" warning then detained some of them.
 
"The police received a warning not to touch high profile lawyers. They only detained ordinary activists," said one activist-lawyer.
"We understand that jobs and money are necessary, but we believe the losses will outweigh the benefits," said the activist.
 
Amulsar miner Lydian said the local government broke the law by removing their trailers near the Amulsar road. "We'll proceed with our work". They examined the items inside the trailers that were damaged during the moving process.
https://youtu.be/IVAJnG265sk , https://factor.am/275517.html

Elevator replacement project in Yerevan / 500 vs 35

Mayor Marutyan: // Erebuni district is getting new elevators. 123 ongoing replacements across the city.
We'll finish 2020 by having replaced 500 units. Compared that to 35 that was done before 2018.
All elevators will have a voice system in Armenian, wheelchair access, buttons for visually impaired. Lots of jobs are created. \\
https://factor.am/275549.html

Iraqi-Armenian community...

... donated $91K to Armenian soldiers post-Tavush battles.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1024556.html

Alejandro Kuklashenko

Belarus president Alejandro fell shot 4% from Pashinyan's 85% popularity, despite drawing the election result numbers for himself.
Pashinyan called to congratulate bat'ka for not accidentally exceeding the 100% mark.
/s . http://www.panarmenian.net/arm/news/283896/

Road repairs in Gegharquniq

A section of Sevan-Martuni-Getap road is being renovated for $2M. It's an important one because it's a hub between Artsakh-Iran-Armenia.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1024545.html

How did the banks do in 1H20? / Statistics / Dram vs Dollar

17 commercial banks. 550 branches.
12,100 employees. 3.1m customers. 6.1m accounts.
80% of the population does banking.
 
Profits +5.7% or $4.6M.
 
Total capital +5.6% or $97.6M. Total assets +3.3% or $396.6M.
Total deposits -3.1% or $232M, however, deposits by resident customers +0.8% or $39M.
 
While loaning reduced around the world due to COVID, it increased by 0.7% ($58M) in Armenia. 42% went to individuals and 45% to help the economy.
 
For the first time in a decade, the volume of loans issued in Drams exceeds the Dollar.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1024561.html

Heno is doing pretty good

Roman legionnaire Henrikh Mkhitaryan is his team's 3rd player with the highest number of ball strikes (35), 9 of which ended with a goal.
He is the 6th when it comes to setting up the team for a successful goal: 22 goal setups in 22 matches.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1024520.html

New hole-y stones are confirmed in Qarahunj archaeological site

The "Armenian Stonehenge" Qarahunj is confirmed to have 30 more stones with holes in them. It is believed they were used for astronomy by ancient people. The 30 stones join the existing 84.
The archaeologists were joined by Byurakan observatory experts.
Photos: https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1024537.html

Archaeologists find more dragon-stones

Ancient stones with dragon drawings are a thing in Armenia because dragons were affiliated with water. Some people viewed dragons as providers of water, while others wanted the dragons killed to free the water stolen by them. (I'll take any Bill Gates theory over this thank you)
 
Hundreds of dragon stones have been found across Armenia in recent years.
The Education Ministry is restoring some of them in original locations. One will be placed in Yerevan's Circular Park.
Photos: https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1024559.html
https://hy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Վիշապ_(հուշարձան)

Treaty of Sevres / Western Armenia / 100 years later

Turkey lost WW1 and had to sign the treaty of Sevres. It envisioned a 160,000 m2 Armenia. Avetis Aharonyan even ordered a gold pen to sign it.
 
President Sarkissian: // The Treaty of Sevr is an important document for achieving a just solution to the Armenian question. It was about Turkey recognizing Armenia and allowing the U.S. to draw the borders through Erzrum, Trapizon, Van, Bitlis. Armenia would have access to the Black Sea.
The document remained unperfected due to geopolitical changes, but it remains a valid document, and many middle eastern countries got independence with it.
 
Later in 1920 Kemalists attacked Armenia and the latter became Soviet. Nonetheless, Armenians remain the true heirs of their history no matter how many Armenian monuments are destroyed and whether Turkey denies history.
Armenia never canceled Sevres. Lozan agreement did not revoke it because Armenia wasn't part of it. Res inter alios acta. \\
 
Historian Ashot Mikaelyan: // Sevres wasn't enforced because by late 1920 Soviet Russia came out of civil war and had bad relations with Antant, so it established closer ties with Turkey, who was enemies with Antant.
As a result, after the 1920 Eastern Muslim nation's conference, Russia allowed Turkey to attack the Republic of Armenia which led to its Sovietization.
Turkey was required to accept the Sevres treaty. De Jure those lands belong to Armenia. \\
 
Pashinyan: // We need to keep reminding Armenians and the world about this important treaty.
1) It envisioned a peaceful co-existence between Christians and Muslims in the region.
2) It recognized Armenia and allowed it to sign an important agreement independently for the first time in centuries.
3) It strengthened Armenians' undeniable connection with the Armenian Highlands, where Armenians lived and prospered for millenniums. \\
More: https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1024511.html , https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1024508.html , https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1024528.html

Education reforms / Ministry denies former regime's claims about "Anatolia" replacing "Armenian Highlands" / No true scandal without George Soros

Date: 2020
Location: Armenian Highlands (disputed by Anatolia)
Belligerents: Education Ministry vs Former Government
Hired Mercenaries: Գյուլնազ տատի, Pashinyan's sheep, concerned® victims of Roboserj media outlets, George Soros.
Result: Decisive Armenian Highland victory. Anatolia sustains heavy casualties and retreats to pre-2020 borders.
Background: Education Ministry is accused of omitting parts of Armenian history and altering geographical names in school history books to make it more pro-Turkey, after [secret] meetings with Turks.
 
First you need some context about what has been happening in Armenia:
After being rejected by the public, political parties HHK and ARF, and their media outlets such as Yerkir, antifake. etc, began acting "extra patriotic" with a hope to gain public sympathy. They portrayed Pashinyan administration as pro-Azeri and pro-gay (a big insult in Armenia).
 
Part of ARF's plan (ARF the party based within Armenia and not the international Dashnaks) was to launch a crusade against Education Minister Arayik Harutyunyan in 2019, by claiming he was "ruining the Armenian Language".
What happened was the Ministry allowed universities to choose whether the Armenian Language would be required for all students.
 
Ministry believes that since every student had already studied Armenian for 12 years in schools, it may not be strictly necessary for a university student, who chose to be an electrician, to study language again. Instead of language, the student can spend more time on their major.
 
ARF incorrectly claimed that Ministry was removing Armenian Language from universities. They present that as "betrayal of traditional values" and held unsuccessful protests to have Minister Arayik Harutyunyan fired.
 
It all backfired spectacularly and several ARF activists publicly quit and criticized ARF leadership for "turning the party into a tool that serves Serj Sargsyan's interests".
 
And now we have a brand new scandal, which the Ministry says is also manufactured.
As part of the ongoing education reforms, which envisions the removal of grading for <5 classes, reduced reliance on remembering and more emphasis on logic and analytics, the Ministry is also reforming how the history is taught between 5-12 classes.
A Group was created tasked with meeting with experts. One of the Group members is historian Lilith Mkrtchyan, who is the main subject of this attack by ARF.
 
Backstory: In 2016-2018, historian Mkrtchyan met a group of Turkish scholars who, as stated by her, had recognized the Armenian Genocide and laid flowers in Tsitsernakaberd memorial. Together, they published an international historical book in 2017 in which the word "Anatolia" was used to describe the region. In Armenia, people don't like the word "Anatolia" because the correct historical term is "Armenian Highlands".
 
Now the Roboserj (former regime) media outlets criticize Mkrtchyan for her past meetings with Turkish colleagues. Outlets portrayed her as a traitor, reminding that Turkey wants to destroy Armenia.
By judging from Roboserj articles, however, one of the main motives of the criticism appears to be Mkrtchyan's past anti-Serj activities and her alleged ties with various human rights NGOs, which the former regime despises.
 
Historian Mkrtchyan responded: // I participated in a 2016 initiative also attended by Turks. Since it was an international gathering, we had to use terminology used by international scientific bodies and museums. They all use the word "Anatolia".
Perhaps we Armenians have some work to do to convince the international community to use the term "Armenian Highlands", but until then, I can't change that by myself.
That 2016-2017 event is unrelated to the education reforms in Armenia. The word "Anatolia" will not replace "Armenian Highlands" in Armenian schools. \\
 
Former regime's outlets also criticized Mkrtchyan for being a member of anti-Roboserj student initiative "restart", and accused her of collaborating with LGBT and George Soros-related groups.
 
Q: your critics call you a Turkish agent.
Mkrtchyan: // Sad and defamatory. My colleagues from Turkey visited the Genocide Memorial and laid flowers. They're persecuted within Turkey. Turkish govt confiscated their passports and jailed some of them.
I'll consider suing [Roboserj circles] for defamation. If anyone has disagreements about the curriculum, they can submit their ideas. It's an open process. We've met 6,000 teachers. \\
 
Q: were your 2016-2017 meetings with Turkish colleagues secret?
Mkrtchyan: No. It was publicized.
 
Roboserj outlet 5th Channel accused Mkrtchayan of being pro-Turk. The outlet says the curriculum about Armenia's anti-Turkish struggles and other historical episodes are omitted and not all kingdoms are mentioned.
Ministry member: // it's pure disinformation. They're trying to shout "we're more patriotic than you". That outlet is trying to serve sensational materials to "this is the end of Armenia" crowd. Anatolia does not replace the Armenian Highlands in the books.
Pre-Urartu period isn't omitted. It's taught as part of "My homeland and I" subject beginning 5th class. Their criticism is political and not scientific or historical. \\
 
Along came the Education Minister Harutyunyan himself and decided to blow everything up with a canister of kerosene. He began messing with ARF.
Minister: // ARF is the one accusing us of carrying out Turkish orders? That's the party that was against Armenia's independence and wanted to hand over [hero and fighter] Andranik Ozanyan to Turkey. The reforms will proceed regardless of their noises. \\
 
This wasn't accepted lightly by ARF.
What did the Minister mean by "ARF handing over Andranik to Turkey?". A former Armenian historian circulated a disputed document claiming that ARF secretly wrote to Ottoman leader and asked him get rid of Andranik Ozanyan, who wasn't obeying to ARF.
Very basically speaking, it is known that Andranik and ARF had bad relations, and at the time, ARF was supposed to prevent groups of unruly "bandits" from roaming around Armenia.
Still, some historians denied the truthfulness of this document.
https://youtu.be/0pnSu0uy4_Y
 
More about the actual curriculum reforms (you tired yet? have a snack 🍿 now take a sip 🥤)
We're talking about 4 subjects: My Homeland and I, Armenian History, World History, Sociology.
The new system's structure is as follows: curriculum -> action -> grading ->end results. Curriculum repetition will be reduced throughout 5-10 classes.
Experts complain that the old system is too vague, non-gradable, and doesn't deliver end results.
 
Historian Mkrtchyan: // The new subject, which starts from 5th grade, is "My homeland and I". It places the student at the forefront and teaches about their surroundings, community, country, history, Artsakh, etc. It envisions interaction. They'll dance folklore dances, etc.
 
6th graders learn both Armenian History and World History; the two will be closely integrated. It's important for kids to understand what's happening around the world while certain events happen in Armenia.
 
Between 7-9th grades it gets more specific and branches out between Armenian History, World History, Sociology.
Nothing is left out of Armenian History curriculum for middle schools.
As for high school, they'll no longer be taught the same thing they learned in earlier classes, because teachers complain that kids lose interest when the subject repeats.
 
10th grade will focus on the formation/collapse of states, foreign/internal affairs, politics, society, etc. It also applies to Urartu and Kilikia.
11th grade focuses on national identify, Armenia's fight for independence, historical struggle.
12th grade is more about creating a future and focusing on various scenarios. Lots of essays and research.
 
How many times have you heard a child ask "Why do I learn this stuff if I'm never going to use it in real life?". We want to fix that by establishing a tie between real life and what they learn. \\
 
This is a developing story.
Interview with historian Mkrtchyan https://medialab.am/85319/
Discussion with Mkrtchyan and others https://youtu.be/0pnSu0uy4_Y
ARF outlet https://www.yerkir.am/news/view/209112.html
Kocharyan outlet https://antifake.am/am/news/2818
Tags: #ArmenianHighlands #Anatolia #FakeNews #ArmenianHistory #ARF #Andranik
 
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2020.07.20 03:33 Person21323231213242 Prediction: If current trends continue, Lebanon will collapse soon with its current deepening crisis. The shockwaves of this collapse will have a significant domino effect, causing conflicts to erupt throughout the region.



Note: This is a repost to a prediction I made to markmywords. It has been slightly changed for the sake of adding it to this subreddit. Despite the fact that prediction posts are rare on this subreddit, I assumed that with the predictions flair it would be acceptable for this subreddit. If this post doesn't belong on the subreddit, please let me know and it will be deleted.
A link to that original post is here:
https://www.reddit.com/MarkMyWords/comments/hsmspw/mmw_lebanon_will_collapse_soon_with_its_current/
TL;DR: See the title, and skip the next seven paragraphs to get directly to my predictions. This is as those paragraphs only work to explain why I believe my predictions will come to pass.

Recently, it seems that in the middle east there also have been some recent events which could cause some serious consequences for that region. Most notably in the small country of Lebanon. Here on collapse we mostly talk about the problems of the US and the broader western world. But due to the potential severity of consequences from these events I believe that they are worthy of this subreddit. To start, as it seems in recent weeks Lebanon has found itself in deep economic woes. 50% of its populace live in poverty right now and the system is riddled with corruption. Electricity blackouts occur for 20 hours a day in many parts of the country. The Covid-19 pandemic lockdown has hit the economy hard and their currency has slid 80% in value since October. At this point Lebanon's only true hope is an IMF loan - which itself is unlikely to work as such loans have been given to no true avail (due to corruption). Mass starvation has even become a possibility. Not only this, but even before the pandemic the people already loathed the government and riots occurred in late 2019- early 2020. Now that the populace has effectively lost everything they've had to lose, their anger has and will turn to the government and its backer Hezbollah. Despite the virus, already this anger has reappeared amongst the populace. Banks are already being targeted by molotovs and civil strife has begun. It is only a matter of time at this point before the populace rises up to overthrow the government. Sure, Lebanon's largest military bloc Hezbollah is strong and has many members. But, it is doubtful that they will be able to suppress a huge chunk of the populous in their current situation. The Lebanese government itself seems to be in an even worse situation than that.
However, the thing is that the Lebanese government/Hezbollah will probably not be destroyed immediately. This is because Lebanon lies within Iran's sphere of influence and its proximity to Israel makes it a valuable asset to Iran. As such, the Iranian government will attempt to prop up whatever is left of the government/hezbollah. However, Iran itself is going through an economic crisis and a second wave of coronavirus so it will not be as able to help Hezbollah as it would have been prior to covid-19. As such, it is likely that the Iranians will only be able to keep hezbollah functional in muslim majority regions rather than in control of Lebanon.
Another reason why the Lebanese government will likely be unable to take back full control over the country is Israel. The thing is that Israel as Iran's main adversary has a goal of keeping Iranian proxies off of its border. This is apparent through its constant bombardment of Iran backed Syria and demands that Iran forces/proxies leave Syria & Lebanon. As such if a revolution were to break out in Lebanon, Israel would certainly support it. Such a situation has actually happened before as in the first Lebanese civil war (1975 - 1990), they indeed did back Maronite Christian militias as a way to counteract the influence of the Iran backed Syrian government and Hezbollah in the region. But, this strength for any rebellion could also prove to be a strength for Hezbollah. This is as it could blame much of the crisis on Israeli meddling and get at least some members of the Lebanese public to join their side. With Israel soon to annex parts of the west bank, Hezbollah could catch Israel on two fronts with palestinian opposition sure to occur in the west bank.
But the thing is that unlike the first Lebanese civil war, it is likely that in this case the war could spillover into other countries. Namely, Iraq and Syria. The reason is that Iraq,Syria and Lebanon all have at least somewhat intertwined economies nowadays and face roughly the same problems as one another. Both have experienced significant economic woes in recent months (Syria more so than Iraq) and all are within the Iranian sphere of influence. The vast majority of Iraq's population have turned against Iran and Syria's populace has experienced significant hardship in recent years. Iraq's government may have made some steps against these issues, but it seems to have been too little too late - not to mention that its reformist PM is mostly stonewalled by bureaucracy. So once a successful revolution occurs in Lebanon - the people of both countries may very well follow Lebanon's example in sparking revolutions against their governments. After all, that is exactly what happened during the Arab spring when the successful Tunisian revolution inspired others across the arab world. Such a successive collapse of governments would probably occur from west to east, as Syria's government is more unstable than Iraq's at the moment. Consequences of these collapses could prove to be quite massive. The first one would be that ISIS would have an opening to rise above being an insurgency and stake claim to land again. They might take over some areas of Iraq and Syria - which itself would result in more resources for the group to work with and as such make it more capable of launching attacks elsewhere. Another is that even now, there still are some baathists in Sunni-majority parts of Iraq. They too might gain influence and legitimacy for their cause. Sure, it is unlikely that Baathists could takeover all of Iraq, but even if they create a rump state in Northwestern Iraq they still could change the geopolitics of the region. Finally, seeing how Sunnis and Shias have been at odds in Iraq for such a long time, it is likely that once the chaos settles down Iraq will split along sectarian lines. A similar thing might happen in Syria, with the Druze and Alawites both being historically oppressed by Sunni Arabs. With Assad gone, neither will want to feel this oppression again and as such they will probably secede from Syria. However, with the Alawites occupying a strategic location on the coast and being the ethnic group of Syrian President Bashar al Assad, it is likely that in the case of a Syrian collapse Russia will secure an Alawite protectorate on the coast of Syria. And depending on if the Russian government believes it necessary to stake control of Syria yet again, they may go further.
Outside of Iraq and Syria, the surrounding region also has a few more conflicts which could spark with the collapses of Iraq,Syria and Lebanon. The first one I will mention is the Kurdish conflict for independence. This is because once Iraq collapses, the Kurdish autonomous authority (or KRG) will probably declare independence yet again. Such an event will occur because said authority now acts as the most developed part of Iraq, and it did attempt to declare independence back in 2017. With Iraq gone, the kurds there will have nothing stopping them from declaring independence. Even though this may not seem to be a big issue, it comes with one major consequence. This is as Kurds and their homeland Kurdistan extends beyond Northern Iraq & Syria, but also into nearby Turkey and Iran. With the former being quite harsh to their respective kurdish minority, there has been an ongoing Kurdish insurgency there for the past 40 years. Even though it may not be as intense as it was in the past, the successful creation of a Kurdish state just across the border could easily reignite this insurgency as it would prove that the insurgent's goals were achievable. Sure, the KRG itself has allowed the Turkish government to weed out insurgents within their territory, but many kurds there are sympathetic to the cause of creating a united kurdish state. So with the disappearance of any Iraqi influence in the region, it will become easier for the insurgents to gain supplies from sympathizers across the border. Not only that, but with the disappearance of Iraqi influence over the KRG, it is likely that more and more Kurdish nationalists will enter the Kurdistan parliament as national pride sets in. With such a change, it is likely that over time the Kurdish parliament will slowly begin to turn against Turkey in favor of supporting the insurgents. As such, this may cause heightened conflict between these Kurds and Turkey. And as long as the Kurdish insurgents keep their image fairly intact, they may very well achieve Kurdish independence from Turkey.
Another conflict which may surge is the Balochistan insurgency in Iran and Pakistan. For the past 70 years the baloch people have been attempting to gain independence from Iran and Pakistan. Right now the insurgency is quite low level. But, the thing is that if Iran's allies in Arabia start collapsing, the balochs in Iran will be emboldened. After all, it is far easier to recruit for a rebel movement when their goals seem achievable. As such, within months of Lebanon's collapse there probably will be a resurgent Balochi independence movement in Iran's Balochistan & Sistan province. And once such an insurgency becomes prevalent in Iranian Balochistan, it will almost certainly begin to spill over into Pakistani Balochistan. Such an occurrence could cause geopolitical turbulence as with Pakistan having a constant border-dispute with India, it is likely that India would support the Balochi insurgents if their activities intensify in Pakistan. If India does that, that itself would cause the Balochi insurgency to intensify further and result in deeper rifts between nations in the region. With nearby border-regions of unstable Afghanistan also having a majority Baloch population - even if the Iranian and Pakistani armies are able to drive Baloch insurgents out of their territories, these insurgents could simply retreat into Southern Afghanistan to regroup. As such, the conflict itself could take years to settle down again, especially with Indian support.
This conflict may be the most unlikely here, but in my opinion it is likely that with a kurdistan conflict, it is likely that Armenia & Azerbaijan will get involved in such a crisis. The reasons for this stem from way back during the Armenian genocide. Back then, the Ottoman predecessor of modern Turkey exterminated the Armenians of Western Armenia believing them to be collaborating with the Russian empire. Even though the Ottomans have been long dead and Western Armenia is now integrated into Turkey, there is still one part of Western Armenia which Armenians yearn for. This is the mountain of Ararat (Or rather, the twin Ararat mountains). Mount Ararat is the national symbol of Armenia and Armenians even call it their "Holy mountain" . Ari.L.Goldman once noted that "In most Armenian homes in the modern diaspora, there are pictures of Mount Ararat, a bittersweet reminder of the homeland and national aspirations."[138]. And yet, Ararat is currently a part of Turkey. As such, if a kurdish rebellion flares up across Eastern Turkey, it is very likely that the Armenian government will take their chance to take the mountain and other historical Armenian sites (mostly just ruins of old Armenian capitals) along the Turco-Armenian border. Sure, such an action would be incredibly risky. Turkey is in NATO after all - and could have called in the support of NATO under article 5 in normal times. However, we live in incredibly volatile times which have completely changed the dynamic of geopolitics. The US may have stabilized its economy after the March/April COVID stock market crash but this stabilization seems to be merely temporary - seeing how another nation-wide lockdown seems to be on the horizon with the rising cases. Soon their stock market will crash yet again. With the US's influence on the world stage, its American and European allies will also feel the brunt of a new recession. In such a crisis, they will not be keen on helping a far off ally fight an insignificant war - let alone Turkey, the one which has had the worst relationship with the US out of its old-world allies. With the Kurdish rebellion, Turkey itself will have bigger worries to deal with other than losing some eastern borderlands. Turkey's biggest loss would be their land connection to Azerbaijan - their closest ally. Not only that, but seeing Ararat's significance to the Armenian public, occupying it would be a very popular ordeal. The current government of Armenia could raise its popularity significantly if it were to claim Ararat. As such, the conditions are surprisingly in Armenia's favor. The whole operation will take a matter of hours to complete, seeing that Ararat is only 20 miles from the Armenian border and the historic capitals are even closer. Not to mention that Ararat is surrounded by Kurdish majority territory, which would probably already be in revolt. It could easily be given the excuse of "securing Armenian borders from chaos". Turkey might do some saber rattling, but if the Kurds would be in full revolt there would be nothing they could do about it However, these conditions would only work if the Kurds enter a full scale revolt. With Turkey's huge army, if such a scenario does not occur, the Armenians would be defeated easily and occupied by Turkey. Assuming that such a Kurdish rebellion does occur, Armenia still would have one additional contender to deal with - Azerbaijan. After an incident in which 16 Azeri soldiers were killed, a large amount of Azeri citizens have called for a new war with Armenia (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53415693). Since than incident, both sides have been engaging in clashes. As such, it is likely that Azerbaijan and Armenia might go to war yet again. With Azerbaijan being Turkey's closest ally, even if Armenia doesn't attempt to claim Mt Ararat - Turkey will support the Azeris. With Azerbaijan itself being significantly larger than Armenia, it may seem that Armenia wouldn't take any chances with taking Ararat, even if good circumstances arise so that all available troops can help fight Azerbaijan. But, the reason why such a war may actually make claiming Mt. Ararat more likely is because Ararat lies directly to the west of Turkey's land connection to Azerbaijan's Nakhchivan enclave. As such, supplies directed from Turkey to Azerbaijan will probably need to go through this area to reach Azerbaijan. In the case of a kurdish rebellion Turkey probably wouldn't use this corridor much - however after it would be inevitably put down Turkey would probably use this corridor to give Azerbaijan supplies.So, if Turkey is ravaged by a large Kurdish rebellion, Armenia will need to secure this region for the sake of preventing Turkey from giving supplies directly to Azerbaijan once the rebels are defeated. Seeing these influences, I believe it is likely that Armenia will enter the conflict.
Based on these factors, here is a bullet list of events on how events might transpire when it comes to the collapse of Lebanon and its consequences. Keep in mind, this includes all the potential locations written about earlier (the Caucasus, Lebanon,Iraq, Syria and Balochistan) and is only based on the current, incomplete perspective of the present. As such, this only includes things which could be predicted, and the events are only placed in and order which I believe makes sense. In reality, they could occur in different orders and many events I have not predicted could very well occur. Some might not even occur at all. As such, I am not including specific dates into this list of events.:
  1. Lebanon's present crisis continues to worsen, the people become even more restless.
  2. Impoverished individuals begin to protest en mass - violence becomes commonplace
  3. Riots ensue across Lebanon.
  4. The government attempts to fight back against the protestors. This simply radicalizes them
  5. Some soldiers/police officers join the protestors - providing weapons to the movement.
  6. A leader emerges amongst the protestors. They declare war on the Lebanese government.
  7. Radicalized protestors assault a weapons depot. Through sheer numbers (and with heavy casualties), they break in and take the weapons.
  8. Civil war commences - the Lebanese public begins to capture towns along the coast. Lebanese defences begin to collapse.
  9. Iran begins to send as much supplies as it can to Lebanon - mostly to no avail.
  10. Israel begins to support the rebel's cause.
  11. Israel begins its annexation of the west bank.
  12. As a last ditch attempt to stop the rebellion, Hezbollah blames Israel for the crisis and starts a war with them. At this point, the writing would be on the wall that Hezbollah would be destroyed, so such an action would work as a final act of defiance against Israel & an instigator for Palestinian revolts in Israel. It also would act as a way to discredit the rebellion at least a bit.
  13. Palestinian rebels begin to rise up in the west bank.
  14. The rebel's progress is halted for a time but Israel becomes directly involved in the war.
  15. Beirut is captured by the rebels.
  16. Hezbollah and the Lebanese government enter full rout, only holding on in select pockets in Eastern Lebanon.
  17. Lebanese rebels declare the formation of a new Lebanese government.
  18. Palestinian rebels are thoroughly squashed by the Israeli military. The west bank is entirely annexed by Israel.
  19. With the collapse of Lebanon, Syria's economy begins to suffer massively.
  20. Iran threatens war with Israel over the situation.
  21. Iran convinces Syria to intervene in Lebanon.
  22. Syria directly enters the war in Lebanon to prevent a total end to the Lebanese government.
  23. With support from Israel, the Lebanese rebels begin to spread into parts of Syria directly north of Lebanon. Locals begin to support these rebels.
  24. Similarly to the Arab spring, by some chain reaction the details of which are not yet apparent, copycats sympathetic to the Lebanese cause rise up in Syria and Iraq.
  25. The Syrian and Iraqi governments alongside Iran backed militias will attempt to fight these groups, but in the end both will collapse (to make a long story short). Syria will fall first due to its more severe instability.
  26. Sectarian conflict breaks out all over Syria and Iraq
  27. The Baloch insurgency begins to intensify - with the Balochs using the opportunity to take advantage of Iran's weakness.
  28. Iran will attempt to fight back against these rebels, but will probably be only able to maintain hold on the Shiite regions of Iraq.
  29. Russia will attempt to stop the collapse, but they will be too late to prevent it. Russian troops will establish an Alawite state along the coast, but the remainder of Syria would become too much of a hassle to reconquer.
  30. The kurds in Northern Iraq declares independence from Iraq to escape the crisis.
  31. The new Kurdish state in Northern Iraq takes over Kurdish majority lands to its south taken by Iraq during the brief 2017 KRG-Iraq conflict. The most important of these territories is the city of Kirkuk.
  32. The new Kurdish state in Northern Iraq begins to align with the YPG of Syria.
  33. The resurgence of Baloch rebellion extends into Pakistan.
  34. A surge in violence in Turkish Kurdistan occurs as local Kurdish independence groups attempt to gain independence following the example of the new kurdish state.
  35. India begins to support the Balochs in the name of weakening Pakistan.
  36. Pakistan threatens war on India over supporting the Balochs - leads to some saber rattling but nothing more.
  37. The Baloch rebels begin to move into Afghanistan.
(Note: Events after this point are far less likely to occur - but if they do, they will occur after the 37 events listed earlier)
  1. Kurdish rebels gain momentum in Turkey.
  2. Kurdish rebels begin to claim territory (mostly rural towns) as their rebellion grows.
  3. Armenia claims Mount Ararat (alongside its surrounding area) and the ruins of some former Armenian capitals along the border. The Armenian government initially claims that this operation is for the sake of protecting the Armenian border from the Kurdish insurgency, but after some time it begins assimilating the occupied area into Armenia.
At this point, we would have reached a bit too far into the future to concretely predict anything about what happens. But here are a few (out of many) potential endings:
  1. Russia launches an offensive from the Alawite regions into the rest of Syria. They reclaim Syria and Lebanon as parts of their sphere of influence. Iraq is reclaimed as part of Iran's sphere of influence while the Kurds and Balochs are stamped out. Iran has to accept the loss Syria and Lebanon from its sphere of influence while gaining a far more significant hold on Iraq.
  2. Lebanese rebels maintain control over Lebanon while Syria and Iraq are split along ethnic lines. Balochi and Kurd rebels are stamped out, so no border changes occur outside of Lebanon,Iraq and Syria.
  3. ISIS reemerges in Syria & Iraq as a result of the collapse of said nations and is able to defeat all other warring factions. Lebanon, Syria and Iraq fall under ISIS control. Without a friendly Kurdish state across the border, the Kurdish insurgency in Turkey does not intensify. Balochs might still rise up, however and may or may not win.
  4. Hezbollah is able to hold on in Muslim majority regions of Lebanon. Over time, the Lebanese civil war becomes more and more sectarian as the rebels become an overwhelmingly Christian movement and Hezbollah comes to represent Lebanon's muslims. Eventually Lebanon is split along ethnic lines with a Hezbollah Iran backed state controlling Lebanon's muslim majority regions and a Christian Israel backed state controlling Lebanon's Christian majority regions. Syria and Iraq both collapse, but are rebuilt as puppet states of Iran. The Balochs are stamped out. Palestinians are completely annexed and assimilated into Israel.
  5. Once Iraq and Syria collapse, Turkey begins to gain interest in the region. After the Kurdish rebellion rises up, Turkey decides to pacify the region entirely. The kurds are stamped out and Turkey brings Iraq, Syria and Lebanon into its sphere of influence. Kurdish regions of Iraq and Syria are directly annexed into Turkey so that they can keep a direct eye on them, alongside regions with a majority turkmen population. The remainders of Syria, Iraq and Lebanon are split into numerous Arabic satellite states of Turkey. Turkey also gets involved in a new Azeri-Armenian war and all parts of Armenia not annexed by Azerbaijan are placed under the control of a Turkish satellite state. Balochs may or may not win.
  6. After the collapse of Lebanon, Iraq and Syria a highly successful kurdish rebellion occurs in Southeastern Turkey. The Azeri-Armenian war results in an Armenian victory and Armenia is able to take over Ararat. Turkey is severely weakened after this occurrence, and loses its occupation zones in Syria. Iraq and Syria are split along sectarian lines. Lebanon is controlled by the rebels. Balochistan gains independence from Iran,Pakistan and Afghanistan.
  7. Saudi Arabia decides to take control over Iraq and Syria as a way to totally block Iran from exerting influence outside of its borders. As such, they intervene and institute Saudi-friendly puppet states in Iraq and Syria. Lebanon falls into the Israeli sphere of influence.
  8. Balochistan insurgent's attempt to declare independence from Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iran succeeds. This convinces many other ethnic groups within Afghanistan to also attempt to secede from Afghanistan. These include the Tajiks, Uzbeks, Hazaras, and others. With Afghanistan's deep instability at the moment, these movements succeed and Afghanistan is left as a mere rump state made out of Afghanistan's Pashtun regions. The Afghan government and Taliban alike are hit hard by this event. A similar phenomenon occurs in Pakistan, with less initial success however with Indian support of these separatists, they eventually would succeed in their actions.
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2020.07.18 18:31 Army_Bot Summary For: Weekly Question Thread (12 MAR - 18 MAR)

I just did something stupid. Had a guy call me from the city where I went to MEPS (New Orleans) claiming to be a private investigator for some type of Army security clearance shit, asked me where I'm stationed/what unit I'm in. I stupidly told him, realized it's probably a scammer. How bad did I mess up? Should I let anyone know?
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I recently just swore myself into the Army as an 88k (Watercraft Operator). Theres not much info out there on the job beyond the basics of it. Any of you have any experience working as an 88k or worked with those under that mos?
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I want to get into the intelligence field. I have a bachelors degree so I’m looking to enlist as an E-4 (low GPA so I wouldn’t be Officer competitive). Practice ASVAB: 80 something. My goal is to join a three letter agency or a contractor. Here are my questions:
  1. I’m having trouble picking between the 35 Series MOS. Here is what I’m interested in and maybe you can point me to the right MOS. I like intelligence collection, not really analyzing. I hate coding, but if it involved technology I wouldn’t be opposed to it. I’m a native Spanish speaker. I feel like I’d like to gather the information, and have other people analyze it and present it. I hate presenting anything.
  2. How likely is it for someone with a bachelors degree, and a 35 Series MOS to be competitive at three letter agencies or contractors?
  3. Does being airborne, or going to ranger school allow me to do what I want (collection) more often than if I didn’t?
Thanks for the help!
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Can I switch recruiters if I don't think my current one doesn't care? I'm finishing sending in the pre-medical screening documents to process to go to MEPS etc. And after numerous times talking to my recruiter he continuously calls me the wrong name, pushes me to do 19D instead of 19K, and ignores calls/ doesn't remember my phone number. I'm thinking of just going to another recruiter to solve all of this but I'm not sure if I'm joined at the hip at this point.
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I was told I barely made minimum weight for a 20yr male 63 inches (133.3lbs). Isn’t the minimum weight for 63in 107lbs?
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Had some OCIE stolen from a vehicle. I'm looking through AR 735-5 to see if it describes all the circumstances that would make this theft "negligence" on SMs behalf. I've heard of a "no OCIE left in a vehicle for over 24 hours" but I can't find the supporting reg.
Anyone have insight or can refer me to the correct reg. I can't find it in AR 735-5
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Hey guys, First of all I want to say thank you for the plethora of information I've been able to receive by simply lurking around this sub-reddit and searching posts relevant to questions that I've had throughout the process of preparing to join the military.
Some background information relevant to my inquiry; I'm a 21 year old male who's been fighting the desire to join the army for 4 years due to my parent's requests to give civilian life a shot first (I know, stupid). I have 56 college credit hours under my belt and have been interning as a web developecustomer relations specialist for the past year, but I've come to the conclusion that I won't be satisfied with anything less than dedicating my life to the service of my country. I plan to make service in the Army a career, not a 4 and done type of deal.
With that information in mind, I've come to a point where I have one decision left to make. I'm ready to join the army as soon as I finish my internship in August. However, I feel I would be doing myself a disservice if I didn't at least entertain the notion of finishing my degree and applying for OCS. Part of me wants to enlist (19D, please hold the gay jokes to a minimum... I know some of you guys can't help yourselves here); I'm tired of putting off military service, and I've always had a desire for the enlisted "worker" type life. But part of me thinks the experience and opportunity for leadership that comes with a commission is something worth delaying my entry into the service for. My reservation in that respect would be the fact that I would be joining the service later, probably at age 24.
Does anyone have any insight or recommendation regarding my situation? Appreciate the comments in advanced, thank you all for your service to our country and advice in my current situation.
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Stupid questions, I've been guilted in by a friend to join the marines since he needed a referral for a promotion. I've been thinking about joining the army before hand. After going to meps, taking the oath, being in the dep, being personally trained everyday past months(since I couldn't go past 5 push ups, 10 crunches, mile and half 17min). After failing the initial strength test for my shipment date, I had the choice of either being discharged or keep training to continue, I want to continue, but I still want to join the army, how screwed am I? Can I still join, should I quit the marines and switch or let them discharge me? I'm still training on my own, currently I can do as of currently 30-35 push ups, 85 crunches 2min, and run a mile and half at 12:40., edit also i'm 22
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how do a medical reclass work?
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I need advice for getting larger in size (gaining weight while remaining fit or lean). I'm already at my duty station and past training but I'm a short 5'5 guy and I weigh only about 140 pounds. I badly want to gain weight I take weight gain and eat trash like burgers and fries everyday but my weight just maintains itself.
I'm only 20 and I look really young. I used to be fat in school then I lost that weight naturally and never could put it back on. Please is there anything I can do I want to get big not necessarily shredded but i feel hopeless
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I have a few questions as i am still new to this whole army thing. How much should I expect to be deploying if I'm on active jump status at bragg. Also how does deployments work concerning your room and all the stuff in it? Does the room just get locked up or do you need to get like a storage space? Also what's ft bragg like? I hear so much negatives about it but why? Thank you!
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Does anyone know where to get OCP boonie caps. I am captaining a team in the Bataan Memorial Death March and we'd prefer not to get absolutely burnt to shit out there. We're wearing OCP not multicam and from what my googling can tell me its not so easy to find OCP pattern ones.
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Finished with OSUT and just waiting to leave to my first duty station. Can I get promoted once I get there for being awarded Honor Grad for my cycle? I’ve heard a couple different things.
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So I’ve been reading up on the whole CLI/MLI changes. I’m prior service who meets the criteria for the MLI. Now once I get these asshats to update my ERB to reflect my correct TIS/TIG, I should be put on the MLI list the 1st of April, correct? Then upon completion of BLC, I should be promoted if my star MOS stays bottomed out and they pick everyone up, correct? After I’m on the MLI list, there is no incentive to board, right? Since you’re on the promotable list with P status, correct? I want to make sure I understand this right.
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Anyone try the new 670-1 compliant Solaman boots?
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will be at rucker for one month tdy. best hotel close to post that wont get me the hivs?
(yes I did read the Super post thread for the region but direct question wasn't answered imo.)
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Reporting to my first duty station from VA to Kansas
But while driving through VA I get pulled over for speeding, 90 in a 70 mile zone. come to find out this is actually reckless driving in VA. My court date is May 1. Officer said I can call and I won’t have to show up.
How fucked am I? Should I tell my chain of command that I haven’t even met? Or call the office there/ hire a lawyer to get it reduced to a speeding ticket?
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Im 14 days form PCSing from bolc and i dont have orders. Ive stopped by student records and they keep saying by COB of the day ive stopped in but nothing so far. I honestly dont know what to do at this point. Any tips or advice would be helpful
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Is there a trick to keeping your boots from looking like poo after a few months? Probably belongs in the WAT thread, but whatever, I can't find any information on how to keep brown leather from staining from xyz.
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Thinking about joining and making a career out of it. I'm 26. Is a career in the infantry with the hopes of going ranger, a stupid decision?
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Anybody have experience enlisting at 28? What are some things that may be different for an older recruit?
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Any 25N's here? I'm hopefully enlisting next week and this job really interests me. I'm curious about day to day life and certs you can gain from AIT.
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Morning/Afternoon,
So I've just been placed on assignment to Ft. Carson. I'm excited about the move, but I do have a question.
I'm a single E6 and I've spent almost my entire military career overseas. I'm not exactly sure what unit I'm going to, but I know I'll be going to 4ID.
Am I authorized BAH? The Carson page stated that SSGs had to find their own lodging arrangements during inprocessing so I'm sure I'll have to get a place. The main reason I am asking this is because my S1 told me that I need proof that I am authorized BAH to attach to a DA31 (as substantiating records or whatever) so that my BN CDR can authorize me permissive TDY.
Has anyone here been stationed there before? I haven't been stationed in the states in a long time so again, I'm pretty excited.
Thanks for the help.
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here at ft benning training. Truck is broken and need to bring it to a shop. Anyone know anywhere off post in columbus that wont fuck a private over?
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I had to get a medical waiver in order to join the army and because of this I can not get 18x. I do however want to go into Special Forces. I'm currently contracted as a 13F(Forward Observer) in the DEP and simply what is the fastest way to achieve this goal from here on out? I know when joining the Army one should focus on passing basic, ait, etc but this is long term goal and I want to utilize my time properly.
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Dropped a packet a few months ago for 160th SOAR after meeting with a 160th recruiter and I exceeded all the prerequisites to apply. I was curious if anyone from the unit or anyone with knowledge of how the process goes can tell me how long or even if I'll hear back from someone in regards to my application?
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I am a MAVNI future soldier finally heading to basic in Fort Jackson. I am going in as an E4 (92A) since I have my college degree and I am hoping to be an officer someday. Any advice, suggestions, or tips for basic and beyond is appreciated.
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I’ve already completed a bachelors and masters. I want to use TA for premed prerequisite classes (biology, chemistry, calculus, etc) while active duty. Possible?
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How could I get into the 101st if I go 11b? Can ai work it into my contract or is it luck of the draw?
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Enlisting as a 68w. Wasn’t able to secure an option 40 with that mos but I took it anyways because I heard good things. Recruiters are telling me that I could probably just ask for a ranger recruiter when I get to my first duty station. They also said there was no chance for me to be able to volunteer in AIT. Don’t know if he’s being truthful as my recruiter has the social skills of an Armenian car salesman. Am I screwed if I want to pursue this at any time in my enlistment?
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Leaving for Basic today, thanks for all the help with the daily threads. I’m gon try to not die.
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If I join the army right now what are the chances I’ll be apart of the Kim Jong Un meeting ?
I’ll take that bastard down myself.
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So I have been deciding to get new boots, was wondering if any of you recommend Garmont T8 Bifida or Nike SFB. Those are the 2 im debating between and don't know which to get.
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What muscles are mainly used in PRT push ups compared to wide arm push ups?
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Highly interested in joining the military, in persuit of a future career in Information Security Analyst/Admin.
I’m a bit conflicted between the Air Force and the Army, which will arm me better for civilian success in the IT/CyberSec field?
I’m interested in both 17C and 35Q (Is there a difference?)
I’ve heard that the culture and ‘hooah’ of the Army leaves a big roadblock for 17C’s and Intel guys to be highly productive and develop great skills.
I really just want to be prepared to be an outstanding IT professional and on the fast track to high-paying Jobs and career success
I appreciate any and all help!! Thanks
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Is there anywhere in the Army system that actually lists your pay-grade? I know that sounds like a dumb question, but bear with me.
I'm trying to keep an eye on it to see if it's been adjusted from O-1 to O-1e.
MyPay/DFAS only lists my officer rank as O01 and when I asked them about it, they said Tier 1 people have no way of seeing the E modifier, nor is it listed anywhere either of us can see it.
My paygrade on my iperms says "2LT" ... yeah, my rank, not even the wrong paygrade.
My last hope was to check my SRB, but it only gives me a "disable popup" warning for a flash before doing nothing (I have popups disabled completely).
So... does it actually list it anywhere?
It's been two months and my unit has yet to help me get this done and I kind of want it corrected before I head to BOLC where it actually starts to affect my pay.
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Can you watch through tank optics while wearing glasses?
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Can anyone give me any more-indepth-than-GoArmy.com info on 37F training and selection?
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Lost meal card while on funeral detail, haven't eaten at the dfac in a month due to strict checks and don't feel like getting a counseling. How should I go about ?
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So August will be the end of my current station stabilization from reenlisting. I will have exactly 2 years left at that point. When should I expect PCS orders to a new duty station? Or, what are the chances they leave me here to finish out my contract. I was at my previous duty station for 5 years for some reason, I only left because I reenlisted for somewhere new. I'd like to stay where I'm at so my wife can finish up medical school.
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Really stupid question but can't find an answer anywhere can i order something online from a merchant in Europe to get it faster than ordering it overseas if I have an APO AE? Or will they ship it back to the states 1st?
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Sworn in Thursday and leaving in august, 15q, if anyone can give any insight on the AIT and day to day of the job i'd appreciate it, thanks.
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Headed to MEPS next week, my third time booking a job (had some issues pop up here and there) and every time 35P has always been there but my recruiter says she doesn't recommend it because of the clearance. Im sure she has my best interest in mind but is it that hard to get a clearance?
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Question for linguists but looking for Koreans specifically: did the language courses you take adequately prepare you for dialects or irregular speech patterns beyond the base language? I've only been studying on my own for a lil over a month but if I'm not mistaken, there are unique differences between North & South Korea's vocabulary whereas NK has more Korean-based words while SK has more English Loan words. There's also a distinct manner of speaking for SK soldiers.
I plan on studying these much later down the road but will this be covered at all or am I going to have to study on my own if I want to learn it?
Also thank you to everyone who gave me advice on resources to use for studying in the 1st place. I wound up using all of your advice as well as improvising with my own things - think I'm doing pretty well.
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If I go SMP in the guard and we deploy do I get to do my enlisted job?
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Posted here before and on shadowspear forums. Figured id throw in one final question because i am going to MEPs tomorrow for the 5th time to sign my contract.
I had an issue with my left eye it was 20/30 corrected. right is 20/20. Finally got my waiver, figured i would not be able to get my 18x contract i have been training for. Already mentally prepared to go 11 series and transfer to 18 series in OSUT, yestreday i sat down with recruiter and he wanted me to sign an 11x/option 40. I ended up locking in the system just a plain ol vanilla 11x contract, realized later in the day that if i can get option 40.. i could get 18x. So should i let them know i want to wait for an 18x because of course everything is set in stone for me and i would get some sort of bonus i assume. Or just ride the wave and go with 11x, knowing i have a good GT score and ill get maxed out PT test. So should have 0 issues getting 18x once i am at OSUT.
Sorry this was kind of poorly written, i am in a rush. Just wanted to get this question posted before I leave the house today.
Thanks -Max
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I saw someone on here compare 17C to 35Q. Training for 17C is a lot longer, are the jobs actually similar, or is it like, job rivalry so to say?
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Sorry I know this has been asked to death but I just have to ask. So today I had a good meeting with my recruiter yesterday where we finalized all the necessary paperwork and I am at the moment scheduled to go to MEPS later next week. I brought up that I have smoked marijuana but after saying that it has been over 6 months from my last time, he brushed it off.
Now to be perfectly honest I’ve smoked about 16 times, and I’m more than willing to go through the paper work to get a waiver, I still have school until early June. Next to all my jobs that I would like require a TS clearance, and everyone here makes it very clear that I will get caught, and it will be on my head if I lie and get caught. So I’m just thinking, would it be best to possibly try and work with a different recruiter? Thanks for any and all advice.
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I saw a E-5 With a tiny ranger tab sewn onto his PC above his rank. What was this?
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I'm a bit confused about the advanced paygrade upon enlisting regarding completion of JROTC. From what I've been able to find online, completing 2 or more years of JROTC qualifies you for advancement to an E-2 upon enlisting. It probably seems common sensical but I've been unable to find if the Army recognises this for JROTC programs across all branches. So having completed 3 years of AF JROTC, will this qualify me for advancement in paygrade?
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Anyone know if come ets, the army will cover plane tickets? Wife is getting out and we do not all fit in our car with the animals. Renting a one way car costs more than flying does.
Just curious if this is something they cover so we can finish planning.
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I'm in the ROTC program at my university seeking to contract in the future. I want to get some experience as an enlisted member in the military and get some of the benefits that come with being the military while in college by being in the SMP.
Should I join the Army Reserve or the National Guard? Which have the better benefits? Are there certain opportunities that are exclusive to either one?
Which MOS will fit into the same summer I do BCT? I don't want AIT to intrude into the fall semester of next school year.
I have already began speaking with an Army recruiter and have started filling out paperwork and took the practice ASVAB. If I decide to join the National Guard instead would I have to speak to another recruiter or can I finish the process with the same one?
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Im currently at ait and received my first duty station as Fort Stewart. Thing is, im option 40 and my understanding was that Benning would be my first duty station for RASP no matter what.
Is there something im missing?
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Going to NTC sometime in the next few months. What can I expect? Enlisted, for reference. Won’t be living that cushy TOC life.
Things to bring/buy? Things I should be aware of? Any advice?
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I am about to join the Army after I turn 18 in June, and I've been playing electric guitar for 1 year and 3 months and I am also currently interested in singing as well. I really want it to be what I do in the future and I was looking at the Musician (42R) And it seems pretty interesting, I have incredible determination to make this my future, Even if it has to be on the side. But say I do go for 42R, It doesn't really say anywhere on the that page on how to go about doing an audition.
So my question is, How would I go about doing an audition, and What would I have to play in and or do in that audition.
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Scored a 96 on my ASVAB today. What jobs can I do?
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Can you contribute to the TSP and get out after 20 for a paycheck every month?
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As someone who has only ever had OHA which pays me for exactly what my rent is, I was wondering how BAH works. I am PCSing to Ft Hood but want to live in Georgetown, do I just get the Ft Hood based BAH or would it be based off of Georgetown? TIA.
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What location is BAH in basic training based on? Your dependents zip, or your training location?
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If you go in with a 3 year contract 11x would you still be able to volunteer for selection? Would you have to extend the contract and by how much?
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Been in for 6months, just recieved auto promotion to PV2. Here's my question, because of Hurricane Irma and taking a quick start I wasn't able to get my transcripts to meps in time, I have 60 credit hours. Currently I'm a AIT student at Huachuca with a couple months left and was wondering if I could talk with anyone about PFC promotion or did I lose my window of opportunity and tough luck? Thanks for time
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Hello, before i dive into this situation i am not trying to come across as i am to good for where i have ended up or that i do not appreciate what the military is doing for me.
With that being said, i have had a very interesting experience at MEPS and would like to share it with the community to get some insight and see if maybe i am in the wrong here. I went to MEPS with an 11x contract reservation by my local recruiting office, once arrived at the Miami MEPS office i was told i do not qualify for this job.
Now full disclosure i have a slight lazyness in my left eye- known as ambloypia. I had to get a waiver for this and also had a eye consultation.
My eye results stated that my vision is correctable to 20/20 - 20/30. Once my waiver was approved i was informed my new PULHES score is 111111
However the MEPS recruiter told me that i do not qualify over and over, i pulled my local recruiter inside with me who was in the hall just to see what he says. Basically they went back and forth and my recruiter seemed slightly confused. He even repulled the job for me in the system on his laptop but the MEPS recruiter was not having it. He went on to say that my eye consult i was instructed to get done has 0 value to them and that he is only giving me a job based off initial findings at MEPS. But initial findings at MEPS are uncorrected vision where as my corrected is 20/20-20/30. So that is two completely different values.
Told me if i want to end up one day with a slot in SFAS that i have to go to 12B and after my 14 weeks i can contact the SF recruiter to submit my packet. That sounds peachy but i keep finding information about having to be at a duty station for at least a year to reclass, certain ranks, if leadership will even release you, on and on.
I have a good friend who was an 11b that is just concerned for my future, he told me he has seen this happen to lots of people and they in the end will lose motivation and get broken down. He believes as well that 12b and 11x have the same vision standard so if i can enlist under one.. why not the other.
Like i said i am happy and lucky to even have made it this far, i understand a lot of people do not get the chance to enlist at all no matter how hard they try. I just do not like the feeling of potentially having the wool pulled over my eyes.
I know i have been on these forums a good bit more than i probably should be and just should roll with my situation. But i value the information you all have and the experience,. With that being said i do not want to make improper life decisions because i did not stand up to a recruiter in the fear of a 6th trip to MEPS. I want to have little to no regrets in life.. at least if they are easy to fix before they occur.
Of course if there is nothing to be done i will be optimistic, keep my head up and work my ass off to get where i want to be.
I hope you understand where i am coming from and do not see this in the wrong light. Thanks for any replies in advance.
-Max
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still in iet status but is there a way to see duty station openings in AKO or ASK?
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Is the 92W (Water Treatment Specialist/Active-Duty) job worth it? Doesn't look bad, but obviously I'm not in.
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Good afternoon all. Im looking for any and all information on army reserve civil affairs. There seems to be a litany of info in regards to active duty, but zero describing the day to day life, training, op tempo or what RESERVE Civil Affairs even really does, besides reading the general description on a recruiting site. Im also interested and was wondering if anyone would be able to detail the chances of getting into high speed schools ( airborne, sapper, assault).
My number one priority is my education, but I feel the need to serve our amazing country, am energized by the potential of one or more deployments and moreso want something extremely challenging in my life.
Please advise.
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Hi All,
I was selected as a summer intern for the Army JAG Corps, and will be spending 3 months "in Kaiserslautern". Unfortunately, I don't know much else, and won't be assigned a sponsor for an unknown amount of time.
This is concerning, as I need to figure out a place to live for such an awkward amount of time, figure out transportation, etc. My best guess is that I will end up working at the legal services office on Kleber Kaserne, but again, I don't know for sure.
So, anyone have any similar experiences or tips to share? I'm looking into AirBnb's, im trolling BooKoo listings, and trying to figure out if I can use the Housing Management Office at Ramstein to help find lodging, since I am still on IRR for the ARNG.
Thanks in advance for comments!
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So I'm a 17 yr old high school dropout with a GED. I really wanted to do some high speed combat badass shit so I did my research and decided on the Rangers. I talked to my recruiter and reserved an 11xop40 contract. Went to MEPS but they said I couldn't sign that day bc of being out of high school, I have to be 18. I turn 18 1 week after, so my recruiter says hell drop it and immediately go back in and get it, so it'll be reserved for another week. Talked to him today and he says he tried, but 10 seconds after he dropped it, it disappeared and he couldn't get another one, no more. They're trying to get me to do a normal 11x no option, saying it's very common for the 75th to recruit from basic graduation. Saying there's a good chance I'll get airborne or RASP right after OSUT or at least soon after. Idk what to do..
I'm not okay with being basic infantry my whole time, and I'm not okay with being a paratrooper my whole time. However, if I have to be in one of these for a couple months, then I think I'll be okay with that. Is this unrealistic? Are slots at these schools hard to come by?
Thanks to anyone who can help
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Having difficulty finding info on 68x, but am wondering what type of civilian careers it lends you. Or is it a dead end MOS?
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Is getting a gall bladder removal surgery medically disqualifying for the army?
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Is a 76 a good score on the asvab?
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I apologize for asking, but can somebody become a ranger in the National Guard? I’m considering commissioning using the split training option, but is it better to just transfer to the Army using blue to green then commissioning using green to gold or is that competitive like STA-21?
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I am currently Air Force and have a few questions regarding cyber commission for the Army. If you have any knowledge of the program do you mind commenting or sending me a pm.
That would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
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Leaving for Infantry OSUT shortly and have some questions. My recruiter isn't infantry so he wasn't able to answer them thoroughly.
1.) Exactly how cut off am I from the outside world? I'm a person who really enjoys reading the news, will I have access to the goings-on of the world or will I only be able to hear about things from letters and things the DS tell us?
2.) What do you do all day? I understand get up early, PT, shower, eat breakfast. But then what? Precisely what is the day spending doing and learning?
3.) Do DSes read incoming mail?
4.) Is the date on my contract that says I will leave reception and begin the real deal accurate or is that a rough estimation? I leave on a Tuesday and my paperwork states I will be cleared from reception the following Monday.
5.) Battle buddies. How are they assigned?
6.) Are companies a mix of 18Xs, Op. 40s, Op. 4s, or is everybody separated?
7.) Is my head kept shaved weeks 1-14 or is some lenience allowed as the training progresses?
8.) Working out in my free time. Feasible? I'm trying not to lose shape and was wondering if I would be able to, say, get some additional running in or am I just relegated to doing pushups in the bay for example.
9.) Is it true SF recruiters come to OSUT classes to get people to volunteer for 18X? I'm aware Ranger recruiters come by, but SF?
Thanks.
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Would being subscribed to Alex Jones channel be grounds to not being allowed to join in military intelligence MOS?
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I am seriously considering joining the army. I have met with a recruiter once, im not in peak physical shape. But im really joining to becoming Military Police. So my question is, how much combat will this role see? I would not like to see any combat however if i join i will accept it. So how much combat does Military Police see?
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If anyone can lend me a bit of insight on a matter I'm having, I'd appreciate it; Context: I'm 20 going into the Army, looking into getting a 17C MOS if possible. I scored a 95 on the ASVAB and have about 41 college credits to work with.
I'm at the medical portion of my recruiting, and I've wisened to the motto that MEPS only knows what you tell them. The issue I'm having is that I have a severe Penicillin allergy and a small, but obvious scar across my abdomen from a childhood surgery (with complete documents). I was told that the former can be a disqualifier (even though I know you can red tags, but I'm not sure how you get them) and the latter will drag out the process indefinitely.
I was told to see am allergist and send over all the docs related to the surgery. I'm also going out to get a bill of health to prove I'm well and able.
So here's my concern: Does a penicillin allergy extend processing? Can be I completely dismissed over a small scar and surgery notes or do I still have a shot? *please pm me for specifics if needed
Sorry for the essay, but this has my mind racked. Thank you for your help!
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Anyone got info on the airborne psyops unit at BT Collins?
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Will being bald screw me over in basic at all? I hear having your head already shaved is a bad idea but I don't feel like rocking the George Costanza look either.
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Can i join the US army if i was in the Canadian army before?
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Anyone know how to get their cac reader to work for a macbook?
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2020.07.17 03:34 Person21323231213242 MMW: Lebanon will collapse soon with its current deepening crisis. The shockwaves of this collapse will have a significant domino effect, causing conflicts to erupt throughout the region.

This is something of a followup to a previous prediction on this in which I predicted that the covid-19 crisis could cause civil wars in several developing countries.
A link to it is here:
https://www.reddit.com/MarkMyWords/comments/frvgkg/mmw_the_coronavirus_crisis_and_the_economic/
TL;DR: See the title, and skip the next seven paragraphs to get directly to my predictions. This is as those paragraphs only work to explain why I believe my predictions will come to pass.
Now, this post is supposed to act as a follow up to that previous one now that new information has surfaced. As it seems, in recent weeks Lebanon has found itself in deep economic woes. 50% of its populace live in poverty right now and the system is riddled with corruption. Electricity blackouts occur for 20 hours a day in many parts of the country. The Covid-19 pandemic lockdown has hit the economy hard and their currency has slid 80% in value since October. At this point Lebanon's only true hope is an IMF loan - which itself is unlikely to work as such loans have been given to no true avail (due to corruption). Mass starvation has even become a possibility. Not only this, but even before the pandemic the people already loathed the government and riots occurred in late 2019- early 2020. Now that the populace has effectively lost everything they've had to lose, their anger has and will turn to the government and its backer Hezbollah. Despite the virus, already this anger has reappeared amongst the populace. Banks are already being targeted by molotovs and civil strife has begun. It is only a matter of time at this point before the populace rises up to overthrow the government. Sure, Lebanon's largest military bloc Hezbollah is strong and has many members. But, it is doubtful that they will be able to suppress a huge chunk of the populous in their current situation. The Lebanese government itself seems to be in an even worse situation than that.

However, the thing is that the Lebanese government/Hezbollah will probably not be destroyed immediately. This is because Lebanon lies within Iran's sphere of influence and its proximity to Israel makes it a valuable asset to Iran. As such, the Iranian government will attempt to prop up whatever is left of the government/hezbollah. However, Iran itself is going through an economic crisis and a second wave of coronavirus so it will not be as able to help Hezbollah as it would have been prior to covid-19. As such, it is likely that the Iranians will only be able to keep hezbollah functional in muslim majority regions rather than in control of Lebanon.

Another reason why the Lebanese government will likely be unable to take back full control over the country is Israel. The thing is that Israel as Iran's main adversary has a goal of keeping Iranian proxies off of its border. This is apparent through its constant bombardment of Iran backed Syria and demands that Iran forces/proxies leave Syria & Lebanon. As such if a revolution were to break out in Lebanon, Israel would certainly support it. Such a situation has actually happened before as in the first Lebanese civil war (1975 - 1990), they indeed did back Maronite Christian militias as a way to counteract the influence of the Iran backed Syrian government and Hezbollah in the region. But, this strength for any rebellion could also prove to be a strength for Hezbollah. This is as it could blame much of the crisis on Israeli meddling and get at least some members of the Lebanese public to join their side. With Israel soon to annex parts of the west bank, Hezbollah could catch Israel on two fronts with palestinian opposition sure to occur in the west bank.
But the thing is that unlike the first Lebanese civil war, it is likely that in this case the war could spillover into other countries. Namely, Iraq and Syria. The reason is that Iraq,Syria and Lebanon all have at least somewhat intertwined economies nowadays and face roughly the same problems as one another. Both have experienced significant economic woes in recent months (Syria more so than Iraq) and all are within the Iranian sphere of influence. The vast majority of Iraq's population have turned against Iran and Syria's populace has experienced significant hardship in recent years. Iraq's government may have made some steps against these issues, but it seems to have been too little too late - not to mention that its reformist PM is mostly stonewalled by bureaucracy. So once a successful revolution occurs in Lebanon - the people of both countries may very well follow Lebanon's example in sparking revolutions against their governments. After all, that is exactly what happened during the Arab spring when the successful Tunisian revolution inspired others across the arab world. Such a successive collapse of governments would probably occur from west to east, as Syria's government is more unstable than Iraq's at the moment. Consequences of these collapses could prove to be quite massive. The first one would be that ISIS would have an opening to rise above being an insurgency and stake claim to land again. They might take over some areas of Iraq and Syria - which itself would result in more resources for the group to work with and as such make it more capable of launching attacks elsewhere. Another is that even now, there still are some baathists in Sunni-majority parts of Iraq. They too might gain influence and legitimacy for their cause. Sure, it is unlikely that Baathists could takeover all of Iraq, but even if they create a rump state in Northwestern Iraq they still could change the geopolitics of the region. Finally, seeing how Sunnis and Shias have been at odds in Iraq for such a long time, it is likely that once the chaos settles down Iraq will split along sectarian lines. A similar thing might happen in Syria, with the Druze and Alawites both being historically oppressed by Sunni Arabs. With Assad gone, neither will want to feel this oppression again and as such they will probably secede from Syria. However, with the Alawites occupying a strategic location on the coast and being the ethnic group of Syrian President Bashar al Assad, it is likely that in the case of a Syrian collapse Russia will secure an Alawite protectorate on the coast of Syria. And depending on if the Russian government believes it necessary to stake control of Syria yet again, they may go further.

Outside of Iraq and Syria, the surrounding region also has a few more conflicts which could spark with the collapses of Iraq,Syria and Lebanon. The first one I will mention is the Kurdish conflict for independence. This is because once Iraq collapses, the Kurdish autonomous authority (or KRG) will probably declare independence yet again. Such an event will occur because said authority now acts as the most developed part of Iraq, and it did attempt to declare independence back in 2017. With Iraq gone, the kurds there will have nothing stopping them from declaring independence. Even though this may not seem to be a big issue, it comes with one major consequence. This is as Kurds and their homeland Kurdistan extends beyond Northern Iraq & Syria, but also into nearby Turkey and Iran. With the former being quite harsh to their respective kurdish minority, there has been an ongoing Kurdish insurgency there for the past 40 years. Even though it may not be as intense as it was in the past, the successful creation of a Kurdish state just across the border could easily reignite this insurgency as it would prove that the insurgent's goals were achievable. Sure, the KRG itself has allowed the Turkish government to weed out insurgents within their territory, but many kurds there are sympathetic to the cause of creating a united kurdish state. So with the disappearance of any Iraqi influence in the region, it will become easier for the insurgents to gain supplies from sympathizers across the border. Not only that, but with the disappearance of Iraqi influence over the KRG, it is likely that more and more Kurdish nationalists will enter the Kurdistan parliament as national pride sets in. With such a change, it is likely that over time the Kurdish parliament will slowly begin to turn against Turkey in favor of supporting the insurgents. As such, this may cause heightened conflict between these Kurds and Turkey. And as long as the Kurdish insurgents keep their image fairly intact, they may very well achieve Kurdish independence from Turkey.

Another conflict which may surge is the Balochistan insurgency in Iran and Pakistan. For the past 70 years the baloch people have been attempting to gain independence from Iran and Pakistan. Right now the insurgency is quite low level. But, the thing is that if Iran's allies in Arabia start collapsing, the balochs in Iran will be emboldened. After all, it is far easier to recruit for a rebel movement when their goals seem achievable. As such, within months of Lebanon's collapse there probably will be a resurgent Balochi independence movement in Iran's Balochistan & Sistan province. And once such an insurgency becomes prevalent in Iranian Balochistan, it will almost certainly begin to spill over into Pakistani Balochistan. Such an occurrence could cause geopolitical turbulence as with Pakistan having a constant border-dispute with India, it is likely that India would support the Balochi insurgents if their activities intensify in Pakistan. If India does that, that itself would cause the Balochi insurgency to intensify further and result in deeper rifts between nations in the region. With nearby border-regions of unstable Afghanistan also having a majority Baloch population - even if the Iranian and Pakistani armies are able to drive Baloch insurgents out of their territories, these insurgents could simply retreat into Southern Afghanistan to regroup. As such, the conflict itself could take years to settle down again, especially with Indian support.

This conflict may be the most unlikely here, but in my opinion it is likely that with a kurdistan conflict, it is likely that Armenia & Azerbaijan will get involved in such a crisis. The reasons for this stem from way back during the Armenian genocide. Back then, the Ottoman predecessor of modern Turkey exterminated the Armenians of Western Armenia believing them to be collaborating with the Russian empire. Even though the Ottomans have been long dead and Western Armenia is now integrated into Turkey, there is still one part of Western Armenia which Armenians yearn for. This is the mountain of Ararat (Or rather, the twin Ararat mountains). Mount Ararat is the national symbol of Armenia and Armenians even call it their "Holy mountain" . Ari.L.Goldman once noted that "In most Armenian homes in the modern diaspora, there are pictures of Mount Ararat, a bittersweet reminder of the homeland and national aspirations."[138]. And yet, Ararat is currently a part of Turkey. As such, if a kurdish rebellion flares up across Eastern Turkey, it is very likely that the Armenian government will take their chance to take the mountain and other historical Armenian sites (mostly just ruins of old Armenian capitals) along the Turco-Armenian border. Sure, such an action would be incredibly risky. Turkey is in NATO after all - and could have called in the support of NATO under article 5 in normal times. However, we live in incredibly volatile times which have completely changed the dynamic of geopolitics. The US may have stabilized its economy after the March/April COVID stock market crash but this stabilization seems to be merely temporary - seeing how another nation-wide lockdown seems to be on the horizon with the rising cases. Soon their stock market will crash yet again. With the US's influence on the world stage, its American and European allies will also feel the brunt of a new recession. In such a crisis, they will not be keen on helping a far off ally fight an insignificant war - let alone Turkey, the one which has had the worst relationship with the US out of its old-world allies. With the Kurdish rebellion, Turkey itself will have bigger worries to deal with other than losing some eastern borderlands. Turkey's biggest loss would be their land connection to Azerbaijan - their closest ally. Not only that, but seeing Ararat's significance to the Armenian public, occupying it would be a very popular ordeal. The current government of Armenia could raise its popularity significantly if it were to claim Ararat. As such, the conditions are surprisingly in Armenia's favor. The whole operation will take a matter of hours to complete, seeing that Ararat is only 20 miles from the Armenian border and the historic capitals are even closer. Not to mention that Ararat is surrounded by Kurdish majority territory, which would probably already be in revolt. It could easily be given the excuse of "securing Armenian borders from chaos". Turkey might do some saber rattling, but if the Kurds would be in full revolt there would be nothing they could do about it However, these conditions would only work if the Kurds enter a full scale revolt. With Turkey's huge army, if such a scenario does not occur, the Armenians would be defeated easily and occupied by Turkey. Assuming that such a Kurdish rebellion does occur, Armenia still would have one additional contender to deal with - Azerbaijan. After an incident in which 16 Azeri soldiers were killed, a large amount of Azeri citizens have called for a new war with Armenia (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53415693). Since than incident, both sides have been engaging in clashes. As such, it is likely that Azerbaijan and Armenia might go to war yet again. With Azerbaijan being Turkey's closest ally, even if Armenia doesn't attempt to claim Mt Ararat - Turkey will support the Azeris. With Azerbaijan itself being significantly larger than Armenia, it may seem that Armenia wouldn't take any chances with taking Ararat, even if good circumstances arise so that all available troops can help fight Azerbaijan. But, the reason why such a war may actually make claiming Mt. Ararat more likely is because Ararat lies directly to the west of Turkey's land connection to Azerbaijan's Nakhchivan enclave. As such, supplies directed from Turkey to Azerbaijan will probably need to go through this area to reach Azerbaijan. In the case of a kurdish rebellion Turkey probably wouldn't use this corridor much - however after it would be inevitably put down Turkey would probably use this corridor to give Azerbaijan supplies.So, if Turkey is ravaged by a large Kurdish rebellion, Armenia will need to secure this region for the sake of preventing Turkey from giving supplies directly to Azerbaijan once the rebels are defeated. Seeing these influences, I believe it is likely that Armenia will enter the conflict.

Based on these factors, here is a bullet list of events on how events might transpire when it comes to the collapse of Lebanon and its consequences. Keep in mind, this includes all the potential locations written about earlier (the Caucasus, Lebanon,Iraq, Syria and Balochistan) and is only based on the current, incomplete perspective of the present. As such, this only includes things which could be predicted, and the events are only placed in and order which I believe makes sense. In reality, they could occur in different orders and many events I have not predicted could very well occur. Some might not even occur at all. As such, I am not including specific dates into this list of events.:

  1. Lebanon's present crisis continues to worsen, the people become even more restless.
  2. Impoverished individuals begin to protest en mass - violence becomes commonplace
  3. Riots ensue across Lebanon.
  4. The government attempts to fight back against the protestors. This simply radicalizes them
  5. Some soldiers/police officers join the protestors - providing weapons to the movement.
  6. A leader emerges amongst the protestors. They declare war on the Lebanese government.
  7. Radicalized protestors assault a weapons depot. Through sheer numbers (and with heavy casualties), they break in and take the weapons.
  8. Civil war commences - the Lebanese public begins to capture towns along the coast. Lebanese defences begin to collapse.
  9. Iran begins to send as much supplies as it can to Lebanon - mostly to no avail.
  10. Israel begins to support the rebel's cause.
  11. Israel begins its annexation of the west bank.
  12. As a last ditch attempt to stop the rebellion, Hezbollah blames Israel for the crisis and starts a war with them. At this point, the writing would be on the wall that Hezbollah would be destroyed, so such an action would work as a final act of defiance against Israel & an instigator for Palestinian revolts in Israel. It also would act as a way to discredit the rebellion at least a bit.
  13. Palestinian rebels begin to rise up in the west bank.
  14. The rebel's progress is halted for a time but Israel becomes directly involved in the war.
  15. Beirut is captured by the rebels.
  16. Hezbollah and the Lebanese government enter full rout, only holding on in select pockets in Eastern Lebanon.
  17. Lebanese rebels declare the formation of a new Lebanese government.
  18. Palestinian rebels are thoroughly squashed by the Israeli military. The west bank is entirely annexed by Israel.
  19. With the collapse of Lebanon, Syria's economy begins to suffer massively.
  20. Iran threatens war with Israel over the situation.
  21. Iran convinces Syria to intervene in Lebanon.
  22. Syria directly enters the war in Lebanon to prevent a total end to the Lebanese government.
  23. With support from Israel, the Lebanese rebels begin to spread into parts of Syria directly north of Lebanon. Locals begin to support these rebels.
  24. Similarly to the Arab spring, by some chain reaction the details of which are not yet apparent, copycats sympathetic to the Lebanese cause rise up in Syria and Iraq.
  25. The Syrian and Iraqi governments alongside Iran backed militias will attempt to fight these groups, but in the end both will collapse (to make a long story short). Syria will fall first due to its more severe instability.
  26. Sectarian conflict breaks out all over Syria and Iraq
  27. The Baloch insurgency begins to intensify - with the Balochs using the opportunity to take advantage of Iran's weakness.
  28. Iran will attempt to fight back against these rebels, but will probably be only able to maintain hold on the Shiite regions of Iraq.
  29. Russia will attempt to stop the collapse, but they will be too late to prevent it. Russian troops will establish an Alawite state along the coast, but the remainder of Syria would become too much of a hassle to reconquer.
  30. The kurds in Northern Iraq declares independence from Iraq to escape the crisis.
  31. The new Kurdish state in Northern Iraq takes over Kurdish majority lands to its south taken by Iraq during the brief 2017 KRG-Iraq conflict. The most important of these territories is the city of Kirkuk.
  32. The new Kurdish state in Northern Iraq begins to align with the YPG of Syria.
  33. The resurgence of Baloch rebellion extends into Pakistan.
  34. A surge in violence in Turkish Kurdistan occurs as local Kurdish independence groups attempt to gain independence following the example of the new kurdish state.
  35. India begins to support the Balochs in the name of weakening Pakistan.
  36. Pakistan threatens war on India over supporting the Balochs - leads to some saber rattling but nothing more.
  37. The Baloch rebels begin to move into Afghanistan.
  38. Kurdish rebels gain momentum in Turkey.
  39. Kurdish rebels begin to claim territory (mostly rural towns) as their rebellion grows.
  40. Armenia claims Mount Ararat (alongside its surrounding area) and the ruins of some former Armenian capitals along the border. The Armenian government initially claims that this operation is for the sake of protecting the Armenian border from the Kurdish insurgency, but after some time it begins assimilating the occupied area into Armenia.
At this point, we would have reached a bit too far into the future to concretely predict anything about what happens. But here are a few (out of many) potential endings:

  1. Russia launches an offensive from the Alawite regions into the rest of Syria. They reclaim Syria and Lebanon as parts of their sphere of influence. Iraq is reclaimed as part of Iran's sphere of influence while the Kurds and Balochs are stamped out. Iran has to accept the loss Syria and Lebanon from its sphere of influence.
  2. Lebanese rebels maintain control over Lebanon while Syria and Iraq are split along ethnic lines. Balochi and Kurd rebels are stamped out, so no border changes occur outside of Lebanon,Iraq and Syria.
  3. ISIS reemerges in Syria & Iraq as a result of the collapse of said nations and is able to defeat all other warring factions. Lebanon, Syria and Iraq fall under ISIS control. Without a friendly Kurdish state across the border, the Kurdish insurgency in Turkey does not intensify. Balochs might still rise up, however and may or may not win.
  4. Hezbollah is able to hold on in Muslim majority regions of Lebanon. Over time, the Lebanese civil war becomes more and more sectarian as the rebels become an overwhelmingly Christian movement and Hezbollah comes to represent Lebanon's muslims. Eventually Lebanon is split along ethnic lines with a Hezbollah Iran backed state controlling Lebanon's muslim majority regions and a Christian Israel backed state controlling Lebanon's Christian majority regions. Syria and Iraq both collapse, but are rebuilt as puppet states of Iran. The Balochs are stamped out. Palestinians are completely annexed and assimilated into Israel.
  5. Once Iraq and Syria collapse, Turkey begins to gain interest in the region. After the Kurdish rebellion rises up, Turkey decides to pacify the region entirely. The kurds are stamped out and Turkey brings Iraq, Syria and Lebanon into its sphere of influence. Kurdish regions of Iraq and Syria are directly annexed into Turkey so that they can keep a direct eye on them, alongside regions with a majority turkmen population. The remainders of Syria, Iraq and Lebanon are split into numerous Arabic satellite states of Turkey. Turkey also gets involved in a new Azeri-Armenian war and all parts of Armenia not annexed by Azerbaijan are placed under the control of a Turkish satellite state. Balochs may or may not win.
  6. After the collapse of Lebanon, Iraq and Syria a highly successful kurdish rebellion occurs in Southeastern Turkey. The Azeri-Armenian war results in an Armenian victory and Armenia is able to take over Ararat. Turkey is severely weakened after this occurrence, and loses its occupation zones in Syria. Iraq and Syria are split along sectarian lines. Lebanon is controlled by the rebels. Balochistan gains independence from Iran,Pakistan and Afghanistan.
  7. Saudi Arabia decides to take control over Iraq and Syria as a way to totally block Iran from exerting influence outside of its borders. As such, they intervene and institute Saudi-friendly puppet states in Iraq and Syria. Lebanon falls into the Israeli sphere of influence.
  8. Balochistan insurgent's attempt to declare independence from Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iran succeeds. This convinces many other ethnic groups within Afghanistan to also attempt to secede from Afghanistan. These include the Tajiks, Uzbeks, Hazaras, and others. With Afghanistan's deep instability at the moment, these movements succeed and Afghanistan is left as a mere rump state made out of Afghanistan's Pashtun regions. The Afghan government and Taliban alike are hit hard by this event. A similar phenomenon occurs in Pakistan, but is less successful there due to Pakistan's general stability.
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2020.05.27 20:43 timmmy8 Grand Theft Auto V: A Look Back at the Major Leaks

Here we go again. Buckle in. This post is a biggie, this time covering Rockstar’s latest entry in the series about grand theft…and auto, "Grand Theft Auto V". There were so many questions about what possible direction this franchise could go, with many rumours seemingly just spouting nonsense and seeing what gained traction, but there were some common themes amongst the leaks. Whether this meant that this was all genuine information, or whether they just all started copying each other, no one will know – although I believe in the latter.
Of course, naturally, with this being Rockstar’s biggest franchise and people desperate for just about any piece of information they could get, legitimate or otherwise, there were hundreds of rumours and leaks for this game, and I will do my best to sift through the endless supply of such and talk about the ones worth mentioning.
Let’s jump in, and here is a spoiler warning just in case.

May 4, 2010 – E3 Leak Reveals “Grand Theft Auto: Vice City 2”

Way back in 2010, Game Reactor shared the alleged lineup for 2010’s E3 event, detailing many games that are going to be revealed, including “Grand Theft Auto: Vice City 2”. Other interesting mentions in this “leak” include a new “Half-Life”, a sequel to “Bully”, and a premature announcement of “Kingdom Hearts 3”.
Outcome? Fake. Never trust E3 leaks.

26 July, 2010 – Is "GTAV" Heading to Hollywood?

VG247 shares with the world the first real hint that the game is headed back to America’s sun-spoilt West Coast. While the article linked does have the tease in a conversation format, it does make mention of Hollywood and that an announcement could be coming soon. Separately, it seems Eurogamer reached out to their own sources and were able to confirm that while Rockstar had been scouting out the Hollywood area, they were unable to confirm for what actual franchise it was for. This wouldn’t be the first time Rockstar has taken "GTA" to Los Angeles, with "San Andreas" already staking that claim.
Outcome? Confirmed.
As we all know, "GTAV" was set in Los Angeles, and this was our first clue to such.

February 28, 2011 – Rockstar Registers Web Domains

Courtesy of XboxAchievements, due to the original source being taken down, readers are able to treat themselves to a handful of domain names that Rockstar had publicly registered. While on the surface these do not appear to have any mention on the game, as correctly speculated in the article, these turned out to be related to in-game websites and businesses. The one’s registered were;
CashForDeadDreams.com - buy second-hand items from the elderly
SixFigureTemps.com - a job site to make money fast
HammersteinFaust.com - an employment firm business in the game
LifeInvader.com -the game's social networking service
The only one registered that doesn’t seem to make an appearance in the game is StopPayingYourMortgage.net, although typing this into an actual browser will take you to Rockstar’s "GTAV" site.
Outcome? Confirmed. As we can see, majority of these actually end up in the game, and I am sure I didn’t even have to provide proof for LifeInvader.

March 8, 2011 – Casting Call Leaked, Rockstar’s Next Game Codenamed “Rush”

GameWatcher reports that Rockstar have put out a casting call for an “interactive project”, which has been code-named “Rush”. The call seeks performers for the following roles;
Mitch Hayes – 38 yrs old – Annoying, wise cracking, highly successful FBI agent. In great shape. Does triathlons, drinks low cal beer, but still has a sense of humor.
Miguel Gonzalez – 25 yrs old – Young Mexican American FBI agent, caught between a few mob bosses. Very clean cut
Clyde – 23 yrs old – Moronic, almost inbred and creepy white trash hillbilly. Very naïve but in a creepy ‘it’s only incest sort of way’
Brother Adam – 50 yrs old – Welsh monk, cult leader, yoga teacher, very lithe, very into exploring your personal tension through gripping massage. Needs Welsh accent.
Mrs Avery – 48 yrs old – Neurotic soccer mom, home maker, anxious and addled on pain killers. Very angry at neighbor MRS Bell.
Mrs Bell – 45 yrs old – Swinger, and mellow Californian divorcee. Ugly but comfortable with self.
Eddie – 47 yrs old – Weed evangelist, guy who started smoking at 30, and is now a leading proponent of marijuana’s fantastic properties. White, awkward.
Ira Bernstein – 56 yrs old – publicist for an actress known as America’s newest sweetheart who just so happens to love animals, orphans, drugs and sex. He’s always trying to hide her latest indiscretion.
Kevin De Silva – 18 yrs old – Albert’s fat, FPS playing gamer son. Smokes a lot of weed, has anxiety issues and a card for a bad back, very soft, very opinionated. Into making racist comments while playing online.
Harut Vartanyan – 42-52 yrs old – Armenian car dealer, moneylender, would be Fagin and would be bully. Heavily connected to the underworld, but irritates people so much no one likes him.
Nervous Jerry – 48 yrs old – paranoiac living in the sticks, near Simon, completely paranoid, and terrified of Simon.
Calvin North – 55 yrs old – clapped out FBI agent who now mostly works offering advice on TV shows – whose only claim to fame turns out to be entirely false – but a decent guy in other ways. Badly dressed. Divorced. Putting on weight.
Jerry Cole – 53 yrs old – disabled IT expert and criminal information vendor.
Rich Roberts – 35 yrs old – English hardman actor, who acts tough but who wants to do serious work – the only problem is he can’t quite read the words.
Alex – 52 yrs old – white, loosie goosie hippy rich guy who has lost his money and is getting desperate but trying not to.
Scarlet – 45-52 yrs old – unshaven female spiritualist and hippy with a love of exploring the wilderness. Very into journeys.
Chad – 29 yrs old – pretty boy misogynist Beverly Hills party boy. Made money, but not as cool as he thinks he is.
Tae Wong – 39 yrs old – somewhat incompetent Chinese mobster, loves doing ecstasy, going to raves.
Taes Translator – 45 yrs old – VERY STRAIGHT LACED Chinese translator, terrified of his boss’s dad. Male, awkward. Needs to speak Chinese.
A big thank you to GTA Fandom for being able to compare the casting call with the game’s final release. Here is a table for those who want to see it;
Comparison between the casting call and the in-game characters
What else is interesting is that Trevor Phillips, one of the game’s main protagonists, was referred to as Simon here, while Albert De Silva in-game is instead Michael De Santa.
Outcome? Confirmed. Although the names have changed, you can definitely see the resemblance of many of the characters in the game, and that the majority did appear albeit under a different name.

March 29, 2011 – Stuntman “Typo” Places "GTAV" on his Resume

Declan Mulvey just might have made a typo when he placed "Grand Theft Auto V" on his resume, saying he did stunt work for the game. However, once eagle-eyed internet sleuths noticed this, according to Eurogamer he told CVG (which I cannot find the article), that it was simply a typo and meant to write “Grand Theft Auto IV”. What is interesting is that this was never corrected, and that he was never in the credits for that game - I think he simply made an oopsie.
Outcome? Confirmed. Definitely not a typo, as he is credit in "GTAV "and is not credited in "GTAIV".

June 5, 2011 - Play as a Cop in "GTAV"

As shared on GTAForums, one very controversial rumour regarding the game is that it would feature a story where you play as a rookie cop, working your way up in the ranks to either being the biggest detective in the city, or a cop-gone-rogue. I won’t post the whole “leak” word-for-word, but it sounds like it would have played a lot like L.A. Noire, Rockstar’s detective game also set in Los Angeles.
Based on the rumour, you would start the game as a rookie cop fresh out of the academy, named “Rock or Brock”, and as the story moves along, the player would find himself challenged by his partner who is working in the criminal underworld. The further you progress, the more you would find out that your partner is dirty, but you have a choice to either work with him illegaly or to investigate him - with the endgame resulting in either the player becoming the captain of the police force, or a “dirty cop Kingpin”. Post game, you would continue performing these roles, either abiding and enforcing the law as the captain, or selling contraband and performing other illegal tasks as a kingpin.
Gameplay wise, you would have to respond to dispatches over the radio, perform traffic stops, aid civilians, participate in car chases and even menial traffic tasks such as fining those with faulty brake lights, or speeding. The further you progress, the more involved you get with drug dealers, pimps, and organised crime. If a player wants to stray to the dark side, they can plant and steal evidence, beat informants, and sell drugs and guns.
Other minor details include the return of some characters from San Andreas such as “CJ”, being able to go through SWAT training, helicopter training, performing traffic duty, being able to carry a baton, mace, and taser, and being able to handcuff characters through rotating the analogue sticks.
Obviously, you will learn more details about this leak by opening the above forum post, but at the time this was not well received by all, some questioning why a game made famous for allowing players to commit the crimes they want, would now have them play on the other side of the law.
Outcome? Fake. Nothing turned out to be true, although it did “guess” that the weapon wheel from Red Dead: Redemption would return.

June 20, 2011 – 2012 Release “Pretty Likely” for "GTAV"

Sources close to Rockstar Games have confirmed with GameSpot that development is “well under way”, and that a 2012 release is looking pretty likely. Additionally, Gamespot reports that the final touches are being worked on now, such as minigames, and that the scale of the game is vast, saying “It’s the big one”.
Outcome? Plausible. As we know, the game launched in 2013, and it was a “big one”.

October 25, 2011 – Rockstar Announce "Grand Theft Auto V"

Rockstar Games announce "Grand Theft Auto V" on Twitter.

October 25, 2011 – Kotaku Confirm LA setting, Possible Multiple Playable Characters

On the same day that the game is announced, Kotaku is able to confirm that "GTAV" will be set in Los Angeles, according to their source who is familiar with the game. As well as talking about the setting, they have other sources that the game will feature multiple playable characters -something that was somewhat touched on with "GTAIV’"s expansions. Not much else to report here.
Outcome? Confirmed. The game, as we all know, features three playable characters and is set in Rockstar’s version of LA.

November 2, 2011 – "Grand Theft Auto V" Trailer drops

Get nostalgic here!

November 4, 2011 – Los Santos Map Leaked by Employee?

Thanks to iGTA5 we can see that an employee apparently shared a version of the game’s map on Twitter, which is viewable right here. It does show Los Santos and Vinewood, but we know that this map isn't an accurate representation of the released version - it could be an early version, but I doubt it. Shortly after posting, the account named “toronotoJack233” got deleted.
Outcome? Fake.

November 5, 2011 – UK Magazine Leaks "GTAV" Information

As reported on VG247, it seems that an employee of a Playstation-focused magazine has leaked some information about the recently announced "GTAV". There is quite a lot of information, but it basically comes down to;
It is possible that this is a legitimate leak, some of the points made are representative of some aspects of the final game. However, just looking we can see stuff like rock-climbing, canoeing, and abseiling did not feature, or neither did earthquake tremors. There also was no need to focus on refuelling vehicles, nor was there the ability to use human shields in combat.
Outcome? Plausible. It is possible that some of this information genuinely came about as a leak, although I don’t feel confident enough in the content to say a verified leak – especially as this came after the trailer.

November 8, 2011 – More “Leaks” at GTAForums

Another big pile of leaks, this time from a user called OpenSuvivor, and now on the GTAForums. However, the post had been deleted pretty swiftly by the forum moderators, so we will be using this reddit post as our source of information.
Another big list of stuff that I encourage you to read, even if just for old time’s sake. Some interesting notes though mention;
As we know, 99% of this list is just completely inaccurate, making it easy to determine the validity of this “leak”. Having said that, it’s still fun to read, and of course at the time there is just no way of knowing if it really is fake.
Outcome? Fake. I don't think it is coincidence that these recent fake leaks all came out after the trailer.

March 28, 2012 – Former Rockstar Employee Reveals Information

Another “insider” leak, this time coming from “a friend of someone who recently got sacked from Rockstar North for general misconduct”. While the original document is no longer viewable, it is possible to find out what was written thanks to Playstation Lifestyle. Straight away, looking back, we can make a pretty quick judgement about the validity of this “leak”.
Firstly, they mention that the protagonist “will be one character, and one character alone”. This character’s name is Albert De Silva, and he has a kid Kevin who is pretty much your typical gamer who smokes weed. Our protagonist is the man that we saw in the first trailer, and he will not die at the end of this game.
Next we know that multiplayer lobbies can hold 32 players on Xbox 360 and PS3, and that you will be able to form gangs that level up with reputation, rather than XP. There is an underworld that has a working economy, and the players can take drugs – which will have side effects.
We learn (again) that the map is five times as large as the "GTAIV" map, and that planes are now flyable in this game, unlike the previous "GTA" entry. Guns and cars will also be customisable in this game, allowing suppressors on weapons, and nitrous on cars. Gunfights are now meant to be more realistic, and shooting will be more difficult out of cars due to shaking cameras.
The most interesting piece of information is the mention of the game aiming to be released in May 2013. A release date hadn’t been formally announced at this point by Rockstar, but an end of 2012 release I believe was the consensus at the time.
Outcome? Fake. Some of these points are a mix whole truths and entirely inaccurate, while some also blur the line. For example, they got the main character part correct (as we know that Albert was Michael’s name in development), but they were incorrect in stating one character and that he will not die (for as we know it is possible he can). Multiplayer lobbies only held 16, and there was no underworld economy.

April 10, 2012 – Rockstar Employee’s CV Leaks October 2012 as Release Date

Character animation developer for Rockstar, Alex O’Dwyer, mentions on his CV that he had worked on "Grand Theft Auto V", and that it is expected to release during October 2012, as viewable here. Since this was spotted, it has since been removed, with no comment from O’Dwyer or Rockstar. What is interesting, is that if this is also a legitimate leak, it would have also confirmed a PC version of the game.
Outcome? Confirmed. While the launch dates did end up being incorrect, the mention of the PC version and taking into consideration that he did work on the game, I believe that it is possible that October 2012 was a launch goal internally at Rockstar – at least at one point.

May 15, 2012 – "GTAV" Vehicle List Found in "Max Payne 3"

A user on GTAForums had allegedly found the vehicle list for "Grand Theft Auto V" within the game files of "Max Payne 3", outlining the types of trains, cars, boats, helicopters, and bikes that players would be able to use. Vehicles of note included a cable car, a chair lift, a ski-mobile, and an APC. If memory serves me correctly, these are some of the vehicles mentioned that did not make it into the final game, while on the other hand there are dozens of vehicles that are not mentioned here that are in the game.
Outcome? Fake.

September 9, 2012 – Our First Gameplay Leak?

A popular video that I personally remember doing the rounds before the game’s release was this video here, which shows a car being driven through the incredibly detailed desert, before getting into a helicopter. The map shows an incredibly detailed mountain range, and a desert populated with scenery. It definitely seems like something that would be in the style of the "GTA" series, and one I somewhat believed when I first saw it.
Outcome? Fake. As it turns out, this was just a fan-made video, that has gone over multiple name changes throughout the years – I believe a comment mentioned that this title had once been renamed to suggest it was a "GTAVI" leak.

October 28, 2012 – Polish Site Leaks “GTAV” Promotion Material and Release Date

The promotional material and release date had seemingly been made public – not through Rockstar but a Polish site (a site from Poland…not that stuff you shine stuff with). The posters include Franklin and his dog (at the time I believe he wasn’t revealed), as well as characters preparing to rob the jewellery store (revealed days earlier, per Kotaku). The tagline on the posters suggest that the game is available in Spring 2013 – (March, April, May for us southern hemisphere-ers), which at the time seemed likely as it was pretty clear the game was not coming out in 2012. It is also interesting that “Red Dead: Redemption” was also released in Spring of 2010 – so it isn’t entirely unfeasible to suggest the same for “GTAV”.
Outcome? Confirmed. I believe this is a genuine leak, the artwork is too legitimate, as well as the release date being able to be confirmed by the following…

October 30, 2012 – Rockstar Announce Spring 2013 Release Date

Rockstar Games are “proud to announce that Grand Theft Auto V is expected to launch worldwide spring 2013 for Xbox 360 and Playstation 3”.

January 31, 2013 – Rockstar Announce September 17, 2013 Release Date

Well that was quick.

August 23, 2013 – “GTAV” files discovered on Playstation Store

As Venture Beat reports, users who had preordered “GTAV” on the European version of the PlayStation Store were able to download some files as they had become available on the 22nd of August. Users mined these details, being able to discover the game's soundtrack (here is a reddit thread about it), while the game’s main theme was leaked as well - video of such has since been deleted. Due to the nature of the files, the leaks were primarily audio files, and did not leak to any actual gameplay leaks.
A day later, Playstation provided a comment on the matter, saying;
Regrettably, some people who downloaded the digital pre-order of Grand Theft Auto V through the PlayStation Store in Europe were able to access certain GTA V assets. These assets were posted online. We have since removed the digital pre-order file from the PlayStation Store in Europe. We sincerely apologize to Rockstar and GTA fans across the world who were exposed to the spoiler content. GTA V is one of the most highly anticipated games of the year with a very passionate following, and we’re looking forward to a historic launch on September 17.
Outcome? Confirmed.

September 10, 2013 – Strategy Guide Leaks Map

The world were able to discover just how big the game was when the map for the game was taken from the game’s official strategy guide. The map was posted onto reddit for all to see right here, and many were impressed – one user liking the map to a “Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle”. The guide was originally meant to release with the game’s release on the 17th of September, but it seems once retailers received their copies they were able to scan and share some of the information.
Outcome? Confirmed.

September 17, 2013 - Grand Theft Auto V Released

September 22, 2013 – Micro-transactions Discovered

Reddit user u/1880 seemed to discover why it was so hard for players to earn cash in the game and discovered a file that references “cash cards”, ranging from $100,000 to $1,250,000. A copy of the file was uploaded here. However, these "cash cards" were unable to be accessed – despite the game being playable. The original post is quite hopeful that it is just something that was scrapped in development as it “seems very un-Rockstar-y” to the poster.
Unfortunately, reddit user u/Nouveau_Compte was able to provide proof that it was only for online, shared on the same thread.
Outcome? A sad confirmation.

Closing Thoughts & Some Housekeeping

That was a big read, featuring a good mix or confirmed and fake leaks - hopefully giving you the hint to stay vigilant as rumours start to increase in frequency for Grand Theft Auto VI. Having said that, you'll never know what you read that does turn out to be true. Here are a couple other links that you might also find interesting, but didn't include in the post;
GTA V Location Teased in GTAIV Manual
New Casting Call for GTAV
It seems Rockstar games seem to have a high number of rumours, leaks, and just plain lies, given their reputation and the popularity of their games. I can also tell you, the next GTA game that I am working on a post for, already has more sources and "leaks" than I found for GTAV...but this post won't be ready any time soon.
Some other housekeeping notes, I just want to find out a few things;
Other things, these posts might start slowing down - but fear not! They are still being worked on, got a few more in the pipeline. I am also going to limit these posts to games that have only been released. For those who are asking, the idea of a video format is also being explored.
Here are some previous editions of this series;
Thanks for reading, appreciate any and all feedback.
Cheers!
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2020.05.18 01:21 Inviktys Thoughts and Theories on AC: Valhalla

Introduction

I am excited for AC: Valhalla and I wanted to present to the community my thoughts, wishes, and predictions regarding the game. This all speculation, for the fun of it, so please enjoy and comment.
 
This post contains a variety of topics that I have grouped together into sections of related content and I have tried to make the sections largely independent of each other but there are a few references between sections and topics.

Game Setting

This section is for discussing how the game may utilize the History, Geopgraphy, and Political Landscape of the setting
 

The Game World

As we know the game will take place during the Viking Invasion of England starting in the year 873. The map is said to contain the 4 Kingdoms of the Anglo-Saxons, Part of Norway, and a few surprise areas.
Here is an map depicting Wessex, Northumbria, and The Danelaw in 878
I also included a red border to create a speculative game map. This imagined map includes Wales and part of the Kingdom of StrathClyde. These Kingdoms are not Anglo-Saxon, instead they are polities of the original inhabitants: the Britons, the Gaels, and the Picts. Most of the interviews have stated that the map contains England and Norway which would not include Wales and Strathclyde but I think they may be included for a few reasons
 
  • Here is a river map of Modern England that I slightlty edited. The black lines are major rivers while the light blue are minor rivers. The 2 Red boxes roughly define the borders of ~870's Wales and Strathclyde. If Wales and part of Strathclyde are not in this game then there will essentially be holes in the map, of unvisitable land, that we have to sail around to access those rivers along the Western Coast of the Danelaw and it seems that we can sail along the coast from promotional images and the in-game trailer. Now they may have a gerrymandered map which only has the Four-Kingdoms of England and very little visitable coastline or they may section of Wales and Strathclyde with boundary walls but I feel that those 2 options would stick out to players and disrupt the immersion a bit.
 
Note: Medieval Heraldry did not exist during the Viking Invasion of England, so many of the banners and flags depicted below were created at later dates and attributed back to these kingdoms and houses. These symbols would have existed and been used but not have been standardized to represent a Family or Polity
 
  • Here is an Image from the gameplay trailer with a soldier carrying a banner with a Red Dragon on a Yellow field and while dragons were very common decorations for banners and shields at this time the Red Dragon , in particular, is associated with the Welsh and we can see it prominently featured on Wales' modern day flag. This association comes from the Prophetiae Merlini, a work containing attributed prophecies of Merlin, where the legendary wizard tells of a long battle between a Red Dragon, which represents the Welsh, and a White Dragon, which represents the Anglo-Saxons. Now there was no unified country of Wales, instead there were 4 Minor Kingdoms known as Powys, Gwynedd, Deheubarth, Morgannwg and the Heraldry of the Kingdom of Powys does look similar to the banner shown in the game with both Beasts red and striking a similar pose.Perhaps they are also choosing to combine the Welsh kingdoms into a single faction for game play reasons.
 
  • This is related to the preceding point and how the Red Dragon Banner is probably not a symbol of Wessex. First here is the attributed Flag of the Kingdom of Wessex A Golden Wyvern on a Yellow Field. Now it is possible that a Red Dragon could represent the Anglo-Saxons as the Wyvern/Dragon is an accepted symbol of Wessex and a depiction of a Red and Gold dragon banner in the Bayeux Tapestry, where it is held by Anglo-Saxon warriors. That being said this tapestry is depicting events almost 200 years after the setting of the game where England is now a united land. There is also a fallen Golden Dragon in the same tapestry which also seems to represent the Anglo-Saxons. That being said it seems we already know what the emblem of Wessex is as we see in this promo-shot and from the cinematic trailer and on the towers of this besieged castle from the 'game play' trailer. This Emblem, a Cross Moline with 4 Martlets in the quarters, is the attributed Coast of Arms of King Edward the Confessor but also used to represent Wessex as well; for it was found on the reverse side of the coins minted during his reign. While we see variations of this Emblem with some containing a Cross Moline, while others have a Ring Cross, they follow the same pattern and I assume that each faction will only have 1 Emblem, and if that assumption is true then the question is "Who does the Red Dragon belong to?"
 
I don't have much to say regarding the surprise areas we will be able to visit other than listing some possibilities.
 
  • Paris: The Siege of Paris in 885 would be a great act for there new story structure and a great showpiece
  • Denmark: Home of the Legendary JomsVikings
  • Dublin: Slave Market of the British Isles and eventually the largest slave market in Europe, perhaps here we can sell and recruit NPCs
  • Iceland: Homeland of Snorri Sturluson (though he will be born centuries after when AC: Valhalla takes place) author Prose Edda which details much of the Old Norse mythology.
  • Constantinople: This is related to a theory I have that you can read in the Possible Plot Points topic in the Story and Lore section
 

Playing History

Here I wanted to discuss how historical events and hallmarks of the era may be included in the game
  • Reign of Alfred the Great: We know of Alfred's inclusion from both the in-game trailer and the game's starting date of 873 which will start us early on in his nearly 20 year rule. His reign has a rich catalog of events and developments (some of which I detail below).
  • Siege of Chippenham and Flight of Alfred: The Danes take Alfred by surprise at his Winter Fortress and it driven into hiding with a small portion of his original army. Despite this setback he is able to build a secluded fort at Athelney, in the Somerset Marshes, and begin rallying local fyrds to fight a guerilla campaign against the Danes. This is time period where the legend of Alfred burning the cakes is attributed to.
  • Battle of Edington: After waging a successful guerilla war and having regathered his army's strength he marches against Guthrum's forces. The battle is reported as a complete victory with the Danes forced to retreat to a Chippenham and weather the siege. However after 3 weeks they surrender.
  • Treaty of Wedmore: This treaty requires Guthrum for be baptized as Athelstan, with Alfred as his sponsor and spiritual father, and sets the boundaries of Wessex and the Danelaw as well as ensuring fair treatment for each others peoples. This neutralizes Guthrum as a threat and ensures nearly a decade of peace for Wessex.
  • Gifts from Rome: Being a devout christian and no doubt recognizing the power of the church, Alfred made many donations and curried great favor with the church who sent him many relics and waived taxation of Anglo-Saxon's in Rome. One of the reported artifacts gifted to Alfred was reportedly a piece of the true cross. Needless to say this could be an interesting time for Alfred to gain access to some pieces of eden.
  • Resettling London: The old roman city of Londinium is refortified and repaired on orders of Alfred the Great. Danes used to camp within the fortifications and their was an Anglo-Saxon settlement called Lundenwic nearby but this resettlement is marked as the beginning of English London.
  • Unification of the Anglo-Saxons: While Alfred would not claim the title of King of England by the mid 880's all of the Anglo-Saxons submitted to his rule.
  • Siege of Paris: This may be a point where our clan grows bored and joins up Sigfred Sinric and Rollo to besiege Paris and later Burgundy. This would be a cool story beat and perhaps have a grand spectacle.
  • Death of Guthrum: Guthrum's passing provided ample opportunity to eager chiefs who led a large force of Vikings from the continent into England at Kent, bringing with them their wives and children to settle once and for all. The war renewed would see that the Anglo-Saxons had not been idle as Alfred reformed the military and developed the Burghal-Hidage system in anticipation of such an attack. This conflict would once again see Alfred and Wessex victorious against the Vikings.
  • Edward the Elder and Aethelflaed, Lady of the Mercians: If the game does extend beyond the reign of King Alfred then his Children are also fascinating subjects. Edward the Elder defeats a revolt from his Cousin Aethelwold and conquers the Southern Danelaw. Aethelflaed, following the death of her husband, becomes Queen of the Mercians and leads successful campaigns against many viking invasion forces.
  • Burg/Burh: These were fortified settlements that were defended by a deep ditch and a palisade with a walking platform. They were mostly situated on rivers often at sites of old roman defenses or iron-age hillforts. They were connected to each other by well-maintained military roads which allowed them to form a network where each town had at least 1 other burh within a day's march from each other. Some were twin towns that straddled a river, each side would be fortified as normal and the connecting bridge as well. This network nullified a number of advantages the Vikings enjoyed. If the vikings wished to raid they would have to breach the fortifications of a settlement and do it before the fyrds of neighboring burh's could respond. The game play potential for the Burh's could be really exciting as they may not only be the places we attack similar to the forts in Odyssey and Origins but perhaps they could also be part of a 'wanted' system where you could be chased by Fyrds as you try to escape with your loot.This map represents the location of Burh's and while not all of them were founded during Alfred's reign and they weren't built until the 880's so depending on the time frame they may appear in a latter portion of the the game but I think we can probably expect a good number of them and we may have a glimpse of them in this screenshot from the in-game trailer where if you look closely at the mist covered structure near the bottom right you can see a bridge crossing a river with towers and walls on either side.
  • Danegeld: Money paid to get the vikings to leave, it may be an rpg-choice to accept it and perhaps play into the character's notoriety where if you refuse and continue plundering you may gain more material but have worsened relations considerably with the faction being raided.
  • Sea Battles: While they were not as common and the focus was not on ship-sinking they did occur and may be a part of a specific quest like in Origins, but instead of shooting arrows and spears it would most likely be boarding, a land-battle on lashed boats. Alfred did build large ships for a Wessex navy, nearly double the size of the viking long ships so their could be incentive for some naval combat (again just boarding) but not a mainstay focus as it was in odyssey.
  • Thegns: Nobles of the Anglo-Saxons, these land-owners had civil and military duties and may be characters we can interact with, forming alliances, kidnapping, recruiting, or executing in the political systems. Maybe this uses the Watchdogs Legion NPC tech to create independent characters for you to engage with.

Gameplay Elements and Mechanics

This section contains topics relating to how the game may play and feel, the features, the systems, and the 'fun'.
 

Map Size and how it may work

It has been confirmed by producer Julien Laferriere that Valhalla will have a map slightly bigger than Odyssey's 235km2 rendition of Classical Greece and is said to cover All of England and some of Norway. I discussed how I think Wales and Strathclyde may be included in the England map but I don't have much to say regarding Norway's section. I also don't think it will be a fully contiguous map either mainly due to how much open water there is between Norway and England. Instead I think you will sail to the border of one map and you will be seamlessly hopped over the expanse (maybe with a meditation timelapse depicting the voyage) deposited within the borders of the other map. There will still be water of course and like I said in the previous section it seems we can sail along the coast but it would mean that the majority of space is taken up by land and perhaps most importantly content on the land. It may also be that the Map Size that Laferriere discussed is the sum total land area of England + Norway + Surprise areas but even if that's true I imagine England is probably going the be the biggest amount of Land we've been able to play on in any game and that really excites me.
 

Combat

 
This is copied from another post I wrote regarding how I think AC: Valhalla's combat may work
 
Overall I believe this game will focus on Lethality of weapons to address the common criticism of spongy enemies as well as thematically depicting the brutality that is often associated with this era and will achieve this by Posture, Power, and Targeting systems that form the gameplay
  • Posture: This would be a system similar to Sekiro and Jedi: Fallen Order where players and npcs have both a health and posture bar. Health acts as it does in every other game but weapons do significantly more damage to it; killing in a few hits. While the posture bar indicates your ability to act and react (A mixture of composure and endurance). As it works in Sekiro, being directly hit by an attack will deal both health and posture damage, blocking an attack will only deal posture damage, and a perfect block/parry will cause posture damage to the attacker. Resting will allow the posture meter to recover at a rate determined by your health, the more wounded you are the slower it will recover. Unlike Sekiro they may make dodging and attacking to cause the recovery to stop until you begin resting again (resting as in not sprinting, attacking, dodging). They may also include abilities, items, and skills that allow faster posture recovery as well as abilities that can deal posture damage like a war cry that scares the enemy and debuffs their posture recovery or berserker strength which allows each strike to deal more posture damage.
  • Power: Ashraf mentions how there aren't really levels anymore but power that should stop the silly gating we saw in Odyssey and Origins. I am figuring this to be a calculation based on 2 parts Weapons and Wielders. I am guessing that weapons will have a soft Rock-Paper-Scissor relationship where weapons will be better against some and worse against others and also depending on whether they are being used to attack or defend. Weapons will have a power number that can be increased by upgrading that weapon, allowing it to always be viable and become a treasured relic. The second part is the wielder who will modify the power value of the weapon depending on their abilities and skills, strength could be a simple increase to power delivered, while dexterity may scale the power of some weapons more than others. Power will also play into the defensive as well, Fortitude being your flat resistance to posture damage while the weapon interaction will scale that power. The outcome will be how much posture damage you take. To demonstrate this I'll pull from the example given in the trailer where Armored Warrior with the 2-handed sword attacks Eivor who defends with his axe and sword. Eivor is thrown by the blow (Read a critical posture break) due to calculation of the Warriors Strength + the 2-handed swords attacking power against Eivor's strength and his weapons' defensive power. At the same Time Eivor's Strength + His axe's power is not great enough to overcome the defensive power of the Warrior's Armor. Eivor even loses the head of his axe in another block (perhaps hinting at a weapon durability system where certain weapons can be destroyed by others, An axe splitting a shield, a shield warping a sword, a sword breaking an axe). The destruction of the axe leaves Eivor in a posture break where he was vulnerable to a killing blow but the Armored Warrior didn't take it. If this system is correct it would allow for some unique combinations similar to the Dark Souls series where players had a wide variety of builds that were all valid as long as a player was able to maximize their build's strength and avoid it's pitfalls. In that same way you would need to account for loadouts relation to your opponents. Axes may excel attacking against most things but suck at defending while shields are great defensive weapons that can also be used to bash and charge enemies, which will deliver massive posture damage but not a lot of health damage.
  • Targetting: This is a system that will be used to attack weak points like Ashraf has mentioned and was hinted at in the trailer with Eivor stabbing the armored warrior in the leg. We will have a system similar to "The Surge" where you can target individual body parts for a strike. This may also play into the dismemberment system where you can choose what to lop off in the kill strike. This is also similar to Monster Hunter World where you would target specific body parts to attack and 'break' which would weaken the enemy and remove some it's abilities. Again, using the Armored Warrior as an example; He is a dangerous foe, His 2-handed sword and immense strength will deal massive posture damage, could break weapons and shields, and will probably be an insta-kill if hit. He also is no slouch at grappling with his headbutts and punches. His scale mail armor, thick padding, and ornate helmet make him impervious to body, arm , and head strikes and so the strategy to fight him is to move in fast, deal damage to his legs, and escape before he can retaliate, this will end up wounding him and slow his posture recovery until you can break it and perform a killing blow.
 

Management, Diplomacy, and Leadership

  • Management: Eivor is not coming to England alone, he's bringing his entire clan with him to find a new place to settle. We know we will have some control over the settlement and members of the clan but to what extent is not entirely known. Upgrading the settlement could be a bit of a strategic game where you have to decide what it most important, better soldiers, defenses, happiness, etc... I don't think you can 'fail' by upgrading the wrong things first but it may make the game more difficult. The other part of settlement management is how it relates to the members of your war-party and perhaps other non-combatant characters. They discussed how you may have to kick some members out of the clan and how you can have marriages held as well (probably used to form ties with other factions I imagine). I also figure your settlement can be assaulted like the others and you'll have to defend it (or perhaps just let it auto-resolve) and here is where your choices may matter, while your party members may not die, perhaps your buildings are destroyed and coffers raided and you have to start over again. I could speculate a lot about how I think this will unfold but regardless I am excited
  • Diplomacy: I am imagining that this system is what will probably give Valhalla it's longevity, depending on how 'robust' it is. Now I'm not expecting a CK2 level simulation but perhaps a bit of a Watered Down Mount and Blade system where you can curry favor with factions through gifts, marriages, and raiding their enemies, which may build to a pentultimate showdown of an assault, and you then reap great rewards while also plummeting your reputation with the defender. I don't want to speculate too much on this as there is only promotional material to go off of but I hope it's a well realized system.
  • Leadership: Eivor's party will fight with him and I imagine there is probably a section of the skill graph dedicated to buffing them, perhaps you could play Eivor solely as a commander watching from afar (It may not be very fun though). Who you bring along may also determine your capabilities, A medic, a siege engineer, a thief, etc... allow bring bonuses and tradeoffs.
 

Other Systems

  • Destructibility and Fire: I don't know if the game will have really destructible environments or if raiding a settlement means it will look dilapidated for a some time until the population returns and rebuilds. Fire may be able to propagate as we see in the in-game trailer (don't know if that's a cutscene though) and spread much fiercer and much farther than it did in Origins or Odyssey.
  • Hunting: I imagine it will be a bit more involved like RDR2 is, where you have to use your Odin-Sight to track the animal and then perhaps learn it's vital areas to kill it cleanly.
  • Stories: This was a thought I had regarding the reveal of the Curse of Grendel mission where it says we will discover the cruel truth regarding that legend and I thought, because the Vikings maintained their culture and myths exclusively through oral traditions at this time, what if we have other 'story' quests where we are transported into the story to relive it as an actor. Eivor imagining himself in this deeply enthralling story would allow the fantastical elements to not be present in the 'grounded' world but still able to be experienced and it could even be used to relive certain historical moments like the original Siege of Paris or the Raid on Lindisfarne. There is no evidence that this is the case, just a thought.
 

Lore

This section contains topics regarding how I think AC: Valhalla will expand the franchise's lore and greater story. There will also be some predictions of story moments so read at your own risk, I'm probably not right though.
 

The Byzantine Connection

  • The soldiers we see engaging the Vikings in the cinematic trailer carry shields and banners with the same emblem, a golden double-headed eagle on a red field, and while I could not find any example of this being associated with the Anglo-Saxons or the Kingdom of Wessex in particular I did discover that the symbol is commonly associated with both the Roman/Byzantine Empire. That being said I could not find a historical basis for Byzantine Soldiers fighting alongside Anglo-Saxons against The Vikings but there are other connections which I think this game will use as a basis for this relationship. (ADDENDUM: I decided to look up and see if the Byzantine Empire was in the Assassin's Creed Wiki and sure enough it was and with a very similar looking emblem).
  • The Armored Warrior we see in the cinematic trailer with his scale armor and romanesque helmet with crest seems more in line with a Cataphract of the Byzantine Empire than anything an Anglo-Saxon thegn would wear.
  • After the Norman Conquest of England in 1066 many of the Anglo-Saxon nobles and warriors left England as they were entirely replaced with Norman elite. A large number of these refugees enter the service of the Byzantine Emperor as members of his Varangian guard, in fact becoming the predominant ethnicity of the unit's makeup (which was formerly Norse). So perhaps AC: Valhalla will use this event and work backwards to explain a fictional relationship between the two peoples.
  • The Byzantine Emperor at this time was Basil the Macedonian, who had usurped his predecessor. Legend claims that Basil was a peasant who rose to power through his own abilities but in actuality he was Armenian Royalty, descended from Constantine the Great himself. Constantine was the first Roman Emperor to convert to Christianity and with his Co-Emperor passed the Edict of Milan which guaranteed Benevolent Treatment to Christians (and all other religions) within the Empire. With the death of his Co-Emperor he came to rule over both halves of the Empire and moved the Imperial Capital to the Greek Port of Byzantium, where it would later be renamed, in his honor, Constantinople. Now earlier on in Constantine's life he had spent time in Britain, campaigning with his father, Emperor Constantius, against the Picts. It would be in Britain, specifically the City of Eboracum, where he would become Emperor following his Father's death. Eboracum would become the Viking City of Jorvik, what we now know as York. So there is a historical framework to justify a fictional relationship between The Anglo-Saxons and the Byzantine Empire.
 

Valhalla

So I've been thinking about the title a lot and reading up on some Norse Myths and I am wondering if the title of Valhalla is not just a touchstone so we understand the setting and premise but also a nod to our characters arc through the story and ultimate fate. Perhaps we see Eivor die at the end of this game and everything we have achieved through out the course of the story earns his entrance into Valhalla. Life (or After-Life) in Valhalla is one of Rowdy Drinking, Magnificent Feasting, and Bloody Combat. The honored Warriors of the Einherjar fight daily to the death in preparation for Ragnarok. Once the battles are done the fallen are resurrected and reenter the Hall where the Drink and Feast the night away only to repeat it the next day. What if they use this story as a basis for another Isu simulation, whether it be one of the 9 realms or just the Map of England and Norway reoppressed for you to go back through and fight (if you wish) so you can replay the battles and sieges without the necessities of the story.
 

The Melting Pot of Myths

England at this time is a confluence of different myths and cultures and we already know that we will be seeing some elements of the Anglo-Saxon and Norse mythologies but I hope they don't stop there. If Wales is included in the game world as I discussed in the first section then it would be the perfect backdrop to experience the Arthurian Legends of the native Brits the irony of the Welsh struggle against the Anglo-Saxon invaders at the same time the Anglo-Saxons are struggling against the Viking Invaders. You also have the Gaelic and Celtic myths represented in Strathclyde (if they are part of the game world).
 
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2020.04.19 12:50 sikerimboyleisi A Turk's change of views on Armenian Genocide

Seeing all the positivity on Armenian-Turkish relationships in the past few days I wanted to translate and share this blog-post on one of the most visited web-sites in Turkey (12th). The post is on page 1/368 (the listings are chronological) on the topic 'Armenian Genocide.' I hope that this will partly answer some of your questions onto why most Turks do not accept the genocide or cannot voice their opinions on it. What's below is not mine and a translation

-post dated, 2002
The 'so-called genocide' defended by those who as a race are sworn to give hell to Turks. What kind of a hate would lead to making movies like Ararat, hang fliers all around universities? They've fucked the Ottomans so hard but starting with the sentence 'our women and children were killed' they are making consciences and heads hurt.

-an edit after years, 2011
Genocide is using government resources to kill groups of people with certain characteristics.
  1. The Turkish goventment has definitely used its resources and registries during the resettlement of Armenians. The Armenians didn't just decide one day to move en massee. Lists have been made, doors have been knocked and they have been asked to gather their stuff and leave.
  2. During the following process lots of Armenians died. No one is questioning that.
In this case, could this be a genocide? What's a genocide according to international definition? The government in power in Turkey at the time was unable to protect its subjects -on the contrary it has asked them to leave without telling where. Did the government in power in Turkey during that time carry out these claims?

-an edit after years, 2014
If it wasn't forbidden. If I knew I wouldn't end up in jail, beaten up. If they let me. I would say that it is, in fact a genocide according to the UN's definition but I won't say it.

-an edit, 2015
I believe that those who don't see this event as a genocide are damaging Turkey and Turkishness

-an edit, 2018
With time I did a complete 180. My young friend, don't make the mistakes I did. Do not be inconsiderate even if you don't believe in the genocide. There's a huge difference between the pain of what Armenian gangs did to Turkish villagers and what the government did to whole of Armenian population. It is as big as the difference between pain and catastrophe.
Before all, understand this: The government forbids you from speaking about this issue. Using the word 'genocide' is illegal in this sense. Lynching awaits historians brave enough to speak up -and their families too. You need to be a little crazy to talk about facts not sucking up to the Turkish narrative. You are not hearing the truth about the issue, you're being exploited, being told 'true lies' via very strong communication channels. Understand this.
The demand for repirations is not valid, that's true. But the Armenian Genocide is completely true as well. I've been through all sides of this arguement. I've even approached Taner Akcam aggressively after one of his talk in the U.S.A. This issue is as clear as day. The genocide is done by the state. It is the intention that counts and not the results, there may have been local/partial massacres. The government in power at the time has intended to go through with genocide.
Those who don't understand this can do 'walking excercises' with all the stuff they value at home and see how far they manage to go.
My young Turkish friend, you may be uneducated, uninformed, busy but don't be ruthless. You're understanding. Get rid of your hate and imagine for 5 minutes. Imagine you were in one of the families that the government told to leave.
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2020.03.28 19:15 travelandexplore1 List of tourist places in Bangladesh

Bangladesh is one of the most beautiful countries in South East Asia. It has got many places which have got a huge historical value and uniqueness. Some of the places you might find in your travel guide or you have heard from friends or colleagues or the traveler who already traveled in Bangladesh. Being a local tour operator, we have made the list for you so that you can get better knowledge about our places of attractions in Bangladesh before you arrive here. This country has the largest mangrove forest in the earth and home of Royal Bengal Tiger, the longest unbroken sea beach, might rivers and the biggest delta on the earth, misty green hills, sloppy tea gardens, historical temples which is full of terracotta plaque and most importantly it is a land of hospitable and generous people you will ever find in your life. We appreciate your feedback to enrich our list that helps another tourist in the future...
Tourist places in Dhaka City:
Lalbagh Fort – An incomplete fort since the 17th century built by the Mughals.
Ahsan Manzil (The Pink Palace ) – The colorful palace located on the Buringa riverfront; Residence of the Dhaka Nawabs built in the 19th century.
Armenian Church – A sign of the existence of the Armenian community in the 17th century.
Star Mosque – The mosque has ornate sketches and is adorned with motifs of blue stars.
Dhakeswari Temple – Dedicated to Dhakeswari, the guardian of Dhaka city; National Hindu temple of Bangladesh since the 12th century.
National Assembly building – A masterpiece of modern structure in Dhaka by Louis Kahn.
Sadarghat River Port – the busiest river port in South Asia.
Curzon Hall – A magnificent 100 years old structure used by Dhaka university Science faculty.
Dhaka University – The most famous university has gove many tourist places within the perimeter including TSC, Curzon Hall, Central Shahid Minar
Check out our Full-Day Sightseeing Tour At Old Dhaka to visit the old Dhaka in a local way.
Tourist places in Khulna Region:
Bagerhat sixty domed mosque – the beautiful mosques since 15th Century and a UNESCO World Heritage Site
Sundarbans - Largest mangrove forest on earth and the home of Royal Bengal Tiger; a UNESCO World Heritage Site
Check out our Sundarban Adventure Tour and Bagerhat Tour to visit the mangrove forest and UNESCO world heritage.
Tourist places around Dhaka City:
Panam Nagar – A suddenly lost city of Hindu merchants who migrated to India in the early 20th century.
Folk - Art and Crafts Museum – A park and museum where you will find the reflection of our tradition and cultural activities.
Goaldi Mosque – Small in size but magnificent historical mosque in Sonargaon built in the 16th century
Baliati Palace - A fascinating palace of Hindu Zamindar; the owners from the colonial period.
Check out our Full Day Tour To Sonaragon and Excursion Tour To Baliati Palace to visit the above-mentioned places.
Tourist places in Sylhet Region :
Jaflong – Photogenic Piani river that carrying rolling stones from upstream located in the India Bangladesh Border.
Ratargul Swamp Forest - Water Swamp forest in Bangladesh full of activity in monsoon.
Srimangal – The tea capital of Bangaldesh and naturally beautiful hills and tea gardens along with the rain forest.
Lawachara National Park – A man-made rain forest; home of numerous tropical plans and wildlife animals.
Baikka Beel – A wetland Sanctuary, home of migratory birds.
Check out our Tour To Sylhet and Srimangal to visit the picturesque tea gardens.
Tourist places in Rangpur Region:
Kantajew Temple - Most beautiful Hindu temple which is decorated by terracotta plaques epic Hindu stories in every available inches of the walls of it.
Tajhat Palace – The extravagant and wonderfully maintained Palace of Hindu landowner since 19th Century
Nayabad Mosque - A mosque since the 18th Century built by Muslims who came to build Kantaji Temple.
Check out our Archeological Tour to visit the magnificent old architecture.
Tourist places in Rajshahi Region:
Puthia – The only village in Bangladesh where the largest number of historical temples are located.
Gaur – The lost historic city has the largest number of historical mosques than any other place in Bangladesh
Mahasthangarh – A city dated from the 3rd Century and the oldest in Bangladesh ever discovered.
Paharpur - Somapuri Vihara, the biggest Buddhist monastery in the south of the Himalaya since 8th century AD
Check out our Tour to North Bengal Region to visit such nice temples and other archeological sites.

Tourist Places in Chittagong Hill-Tract Region:
Bandarban – Home of different tribes, misty green hills and Sangu river.
Rangamati – The lake city and home of my tribes; the best place for a full day cruise on the lake.
Check out our Tour to Hill tract and Coxbazar to visit such a misty green heel at Bandarban and tribal life.
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